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IBBETSON:By the-? <br />KRUEGER:Hawaii Conference-. <br />IBBETSON:Hawaii Conference Foundation. <br />KRUEGER:And on that map theres a line that is parallel with the mauka boundary of <br />gravesite A. Was that the extent of the easement onto that property at that time? <br />IBBETSON:Yes it was. <br />KRUEGER:So there was no further easement going makai? <br />IBBETSON:Absolutelynot.No. <br />KRUEGER:Okay.Was,whenyoufirstwenttolookatthispropertycouldyoueven <br />see gravesite B? <br />IBBETSON:No, that was the interesting thing. I hiked and I hiked and I hiked and I <br />hiked and the location of gravesite B that theyre showing on the original map was incorrect. B <br />was actually up, when I say up it was makai of the location theyre showing there and off to the <br />left. <br />KRUEGER:Mauka, Im sorry, mauka. <br />IBBETSON:Oh it was mauka Im sorry. But it was mauka and to the left of that and <br />they had simply placed it in the wrong spot entirely. <br />KRUEGER:Okay. When you purchased this property from the Hawaii Conference <br />Foundation did the Conference Foundation ask you to abide by any special conditions? <br />IBBETSON:No. In fact Im the one who approached them. And the one thing I told <br />them, I would like to see that the cemetery itself, that area both gravesite A and B be kept in <br />perpetuity. And that, and I, that they would be in charge of maintaining the sites, blah, blah, blah <br />for liability and so forth. Well with no one knowing who had control over B Ive been <br />maintaining it now for over 2 years. And, I keep it trimmed, it looks very nice. And as far as A <br />is concerned, again, that was for them to handle on their own. <br />KRUEGER:Did there come a time after you purchased the property from the Hawaii <br />Conference Foundation in March of 2003 when you contacted someone from the Hawaii Burial <br />Conference? <br />IBBETSON:Yes. <br />KRUEGER:And what was your purpose in contacting them? <br />EXHIBIT B <br />16 <br /> <br />