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hour before walking your dog in order for a new school to be created in the community that may <br />be the kind of balance. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:I have a procedural question. Were talking about the use permit for this <br />small amount of acreage of the total parcel. And so theres always a possibility that another plan <br />might be decided for the rest of the acreage and it will come before us as another special use <br />permit. So at, where do we draw the base line of impacts if theres a future use permit <br />application. How do we count cumulativeness? Is that a word cumulativeness? Do we start <br />from today before we approve this and use todays standard as a baseline or do we wait until <br />after the elementary school is here and then count that as the new baseline to determine impacts <br />for future use. Im not sure who I should be asking this question of, would it be the Director or <br />somebody else? <br />GALDONES:Ms. Leithead-Todd would you like to address that? <br />LEITHEAD-TODD:I think the Director would be the best one. <br />YUEN:When you talk, theres a different, the ordinance talks about 2 different <br />things.Oneischangeinthecharacterofthecommunity,substantialchangetothecharacterof <br />the community. And the other one is substantial adverse impact. The change in the character of <br />the community has to take into account what has happened. So, in that respect if this elementary <br />school does go in and 10 years from now there is a request to put some other kind of facility <br />there you have to include the elementary school as part of the baseline in what is the character of <br />the area. I do look at though, at the character of the community as being a broader concept than <br />just the people who live on the street next to it. Thats, I dont think that you would say that just <br />changing the-, just changing what its like to be on one house or 2 houses is whats meant by <br />changing the character of the community. So, I think in response to your question on what is the <br />baseline? Yes if they, if they did come in for an expansion in some years time looking at this <br />question of change in a character of the community, yes you would take into account the fact that <br />this elementary school is there as part of your baseline. Substantial adverse impact, at a certain <br />point you, at a certain point the kinds of things that were talking about here in terms of how bad <br />is it to have more cars come by your area thats, thats a cumulative thing. And in that respect I <br />dont, its a little different than saying, for that part I think its a little different than saying what, <br />that some change, some small change may be-. Well let me start over. You would look at the <br />cumulative effect if you added another project and you might say that is too much. We, our <br />recommendation here is that having the number of cars involved in a 90 student elementary <br />school and staff impacting Kapiolani Road for this distance of a few hundred feet from the <br />Lindsey intersection which is really all theyre talking about is not a substantial adverse impact. <br />If somebody comes in, if they come in, in a few years time with another few grades that move <br />here and you have another hundred cars youre going to have to look at that all over again. And <br />you may say well a hundred students wasnt substantial adverse but 200 is. Were not faced with <br />that right now but thats-, you would, you would look at it at that time and you would take into <br />account well theres a hundred and now theres going to be 200. Then the commission may say <br />well 200 is too many at that time. So, it doesnt lock you in to approving and a further expansion <br />EXHIBIT A <br />25 <br /> <br />