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BOWMAN: Okay, thank you. <br />WATANABE: Any further questions? Mr. Housel. <br />HOUSEL: Are you – I just want to make sure, I understand what you are asking for – <br />are you suggesting that they be concealed if possible, or asking that they be required to be <br />concealed? <br />METTLER: If you allowed for antennas to be a permitted use so long as they had plan <br />approval, the carrier would have an incentive to go and conceal their antennas; if they didn’t, <br />they would have to go through a Use Permit. So it’s not to say that they are required to do that, <br />because in some instances it wouldn’t make sense because there’s maybe nobody for five miles <br />around – so what would be the use of stealthing? But in some instances where they can in their, <br />in the area, it just, I’m just saying that if it would provide an incentive for the carriers to pay the <br />extra cost – stealthing is expensive – to pay the extra cost and say we can get our product to <br />market faster, if we can make this design and conceal it. <br />HOUSEL: Okay, thank you for your explanation. <br />WATANABE: Okay. Are we -? Yes, Ms. Bowman. <br />BOWMAN: So you are saying where possible, I mean, where it would be an eyesore or <br />where it would be visible by the general public? <br />METTLER: Yes. <br />BOWMAN: Okay. Maybe I can ask if this was brought up at the Windward <br />conference. <br />COTTLE: Yeah, let me see if I understand what you are asking for. So at the <br />Windward meeting something similar to this came up where you suggested if there’s for example <br />like an existing barn on Ag land, you would like the ability to add an antenna since the barn is <br />considered a structure -. <br />METTLER: Right. <br />COTTLE: Without requiring a Use Permit. <br />METTLER: Right. And I didn’t, I did not talk to the Windward Committee (sic) about <br />the stealthing idea; that was something I came up with later. I had asked the Windward <br />Committee (sic) that in the State Ag Land Use the new law that came out there’s some, there was <br />some debate as to what it really meant; in my opinion I thought it meant that you could co-locate, <br />you could put antennas on existing towers. What it says is existing structures and a structure was <br />defined as a tower or any other legal structure. So what I was asking for from the Windward <br />Committee (sic) is to use what we all thought that was the meaning of the State law and inserting <br />that into it. The Windward Commission had to say no; they didn’t agree with that because there <br />EXHIBIT B <br />5 <br /> <br />