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HOUSEL: Right, okay. So it’s cost of operation then. <br />NAKASONE: Cost and maintenance, yes. <br />HOUSEL: Okay. <br />NAKASONE: Also, I might add at this point, the comment with regards to the <br />infiltration, a lot of times looks at oceanfront sandy beaches. This area that we are constructing <br />on is dredged material filled to create fast lands, so it is a different type of material versus a very <br />poor sandy type beachfront, beach park, so to speak. So all conditions are different. <br />WATANABE: Okay. Do we have any further questions? Yes, Mr. Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA: So there is additional ongoing cost for the aerobic system. I guess given <br />the concern expressed by Aquatic Resources as far as protecting the surrounding aquatic area, <br />you know, that’s obviously their concern. I’m just clarifying in my mind the aerobic system <br />would essentially provide more secure, safer way to dispose of the sewage as opposed to the <br />septic leach field system. In other words, for the additional expense you get additional <br />protection. Comparing the aerobic to the, but what you are wanting to do is the septic system <br />with a leach field. <br />WATANABE: I think it’s more along the way of nutrients. <br />IWASHITA: Huh? <br />WATANABE: I think it’s more along the way of nutrients as opposed to safety. That’s <br />why the Department of Health is willing to go along with just a regular septic system because <br />that would gain the safety concern. It’s more nutrients -. <br />IWASHITA: Okay, so what we are looking at is, like historically, the kind of issues that <br />we’ve had in other SMA applications -. <br />WATANABE: Right, algae blooms -. <br />IWASHITA: Algae blooms and those kinds of concerns -. <br />WATANABE: Exactly. I think it’s more along those lines. <br />IWASHITA: So I guess my question for the testifier is that you’d agree that an aerobic <br />system would be better as far as a prophylactic measure to prevent nutrients from contributing to <br />algae blooms. <br />YUASA: You know, there is still debate among us engineers whether or not the <br />aerobic, or aeration type unit, is actually better. I mean, this is probably a deviation from the old <br />cavitette system that they used to have in which the treatment system would introduce air into the <br />EXHIBIT E <br />8 <br /> <br />