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AAR, its aa and its designated as RLV. There is very little RLV land classification throughout Paradise Park. Those designations are placed in these maps. This is one-third of a quadrangle throughout the County of Hawaii. And those little classifications are placed in black in an overlay here. But what this Commission needs to know and what youre not being told is when those classifications come down, they are from 1973, this document was never looked at by boots on the ground. This is an aerial survey in Paradise Park. There was never people that went out and examined whether these classifications made sense. And I can assure you that this discussion, the lava, this lava has almost, this is what the County Department says, this lava has almost no soil covering and is rough and broken. This is the description that youve been given about this property. SIRACUSA:Excuse me. EGER:This lava is bare vegetation except for mosses, lichens, ferns and a few smallohiatrees.Imreadingfrommyexceptions. ALAMEDA:Excuseme,Mr.Eger,youhaveaquestion.Imsorry.Commissioner-? SIRACUSA:Justforclarification,areyoureferringtotheALISHsoilmaps? EGER:No.Thatsthisone.Thesearefrom1963. SIRACUSA:Okay, what is the title of that big book that youre talking -? EGER:This book is the Soil Survey of the Island of Hawaii, State of Hawaii. SIRACUSA:Okay. EGER:It is being renewed by the Soil Conservation District. Theyre presently -. SIRACUSA:Okay, Im familiar with it. I just wanted to -. Because you didnt say what the name was; and when you held it up a little bit it wasnt facing me. I couldnt see it. EGER:Im sorry. Im sorry. Thank you. SIRACUSA:All right. I just wanted to see what you were referring to. EGER:Thank you very much. The same is true with these soil types. Because over and over again when we see these things it says soil according to the surveys by the State is very poor. This is a map from that soil survey. They dont have very poor. They have A, theyve got A, B, C, D and E; but in the Big Island there are no A soils. This is still from 1963. It is also still from only an aerial survey. So when an applicant comes in for any purpose, certainly in Paradise Park, asking for a special use permit or asking for some change from Ag, and youre being told that the lava is bare of vegetation except for mosses, lichens, ferns and a few small ohia trees, on this property the ohia are 30 to 40 feet tall. In other sections of this youre told that there are no wildlife at risk. And yet since 2003 there has been a bird survey and they have found bird species which they thought had retreated, native Hawaiian birds they 15EXHIBIT B