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TORIGOE: Thanks, Mr. Chair. Maybe, if we can have a brief discussion on the record with the parties just to make sure everybody is on the same page as to what’s going to happen at the meeting. ALAMEDA: Okay. TORIGOE: It sounds like the applicants are wanting to basically present a condensed case, and maybe Mr. Lim can give us an idea what that will entail. LIM: What we are trying to do is to keep it as short as possible. We do want to do a project overview to reorient you with some of the, some better exhibits, and that will probably, that will be done through Mr. Greg Mooers who is our planning consultant. He will cover the project details, phasing, things like SMA criteria, those types of things. Well, we’ll have probably available for questions David Bills, if he is available, our project engineer, and Dr. Ron Terry who is our environmental consultant. And, but we plan to use Mr. Mooers primarily for testimony, so I may be able to just do it all with him, and just have the other witnesses for questions of the Commission, if necessary. At that point we’ll be ready to, we are assuming that we are going to be incorporating the record from all that has happened before and all the evidence, and at that point in time we will be ready to argue our final argument. ALAMEDA: Okay. Mr. Hardy-Sullivan, your thoughts on that as well? HARDY-SULLIVAN: We would like to have the opportunity to subpoena, and I don’t know if I come to the Commission itself for that. Because it wouldn’t be civil at that point for some of our witnesses that Ms. Siracusa pointed out were disallowed by the special hearings officer, that would have a very relative testimony to this, especially Mr. Phil Tinguely. And so we request that. And just for information, if you allow to do that, of if who, or Corporation Counsels as far as authorizing any subpoena. We’d like to chance to cross-examine them a little bit, and it th should not to take too long. There is new information that has occurred since the October 10 filing of the motion, and I’d like to have some testimony on that, which is very, very relevant on the flooding issue of this property. ALAMEDA: Mr. Torigoe, is their request appropriate? TORIGOE: Well, your contested case proceedings Rule 4-14 allows for subpoena of witnesses and documents, and the appropriate written request should be made stating the reasons why the testimony is believed to be material and relevant. And so I believe the Planning Department has forms for that sort of thing? LIM: Could we have an opportunity to object, if need be? Some of, and you know it’s not just to be the lawyer, it’s some of the witnesses, and I don’t blame Mr. Hardy- Sullivan; he is not an attorney. But what the problem was during the hearing he would be having a geologist giving traffic opinions and those types of things, and people who are not qualified to give professional opinions; and so that’s why we are objecting. If they want to just testify as public witnesses, that’s okay. ALAMEDA: Mr. Hardy-Sullivan? EXHIBIT B 21