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the meantime what we could do, instead of moving forward with a contested case, we could vote on giving you standing today and then just postpone the matter to the next hearing; and then at the next hearing we could decide on going ahead with the contested case, whether you guys have worked anything out, those kinds of issues. So it’s up to you, up to the other Commissioners, up to Mr. Wood’s representative. We just want to make sure we land on the thing that works best for everybody. HAWNEY: If there was a way to get Mr. Woods to accept what we have added in, basically we’re just kind of revising -. We initially, I think, had a contested case on that, we had conditions that were accepted in the original permit; but that was some time ago. GOIN: In ’94. HAWNEY: And so now we’re, conditions have changed in that time, of course. We have a new design plan approved by the community and basically all we’re asking is that our new design plan is followed as part of the conditions of his permit. And that’s pretty straight forward. And if he was to agree to that right here and now we would be good with that. But I’m not so sure we’re going to get that right now. GRAHAM: Okay, let me go forward with that understanding. Thank you. Commissioner Alameda. ALAMEDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just think maybe some more information about the hearing -. You know, if we were to grant you standing then the next question would be whether or not we’re going to put it out to the hearing officer, or we could hear it. But it becomes time consuming and all for us so we usually put it out to a hearing officer; and then there could be a possible cost involved too as well. So it’s kind of like a long, it can be a long and drawn out. But that’s always an option. But the other option is to reach some compromise, especially if you didn’t have a chance to even talk to the applicant or applicant’s representative yet.So I would encourage you to go that route first, at least. It’s just a thought. Thank you, Mr. Chair. GRAHAM: Commissioner Watanabe? WATANABE: Yeah. Might I suggest that we follow-through on deciding on standing. And because notice was deficient I think we’re obliged to continue this matter anyway because there would be potentially other people who might want to intervene. And during that process I would assume that the applicant would proceed with perfecting the notice. And at some subsequent meeting we would be able to decide whether we want to take this on by ourselves or maybe this matter will be resolved on its own. ALAMEDA: Mr. Chair, I’ve got a question. GRAHAM: That sounds reasonable to me, Commissioner Watanabe. Yes, Commissioner Alameda. EXHIBIT C 5