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LIM: I think the Condition D is kind of like a wording change, and you can see <br />it on our sheet in the Ramsayer format. Condition E we’re agreeing with. Condition F the <br />change is the timing change. We would construct the curb, gutter, sidewalks when we do the <br />new buildings and not right now. I don‘t think the Planning Director agrees with that proposal <br />but we think it’s reasonable. And then the new one, of course, with the neighbors is the <br />rockwall, the solid wall. Whether it’s rock or concrete, it will be a solid wall of some sort. <br />GRAHAM: I -. <br />WOODWARD: Mr. Chairman? <br />ALAMEDA: Let me go to Commissioner Graham and then I’ll get you, Commissioner <br />Woodward. Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM: Yes. Mr. Lim, on the application we read that the specific intention here <br />is to provide office space, parking for employees, and place for 8-10 passenger vans. How many <br />employees are you expecting to be in that office space? <br />LIM: At the present time we have three and I think that the proposed employees, <br />depends on the business but I think that they would probably go up to maybe six or so. What <br />we’ve done is we’ve moved, as part of the earlier violations and the concerns by Ms. McCrary <br />they’ve moved all of their parking, I mean their tour vans, the big buses off the property. I think <br />one of the big issues was, you know, they’ll be woken up at night and then the morning by the <br />backing up beepers of those big buses. So those are all off the property. We’ve got a new <br />industrial property that we store those vehicles on. <br />GRAHAM: So we’re talking about six employees, is that what you’re saying? <br />LIM: At least for the short-term. This is kind of a long-term issue for them. <br />They haven’t determined what they’re going to do in the future. But I think that the near-term <br />growth is between three to six employees, possibly more. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you. <br />ALAMEDA: Commissioner Woodward. <br />WOODWARD: Mr. Lim, I congratulate you on the fact that you have managed to take part <br />of the trouble out of our hands, and you’ve dealt with the problems; and that’s very important to <br />us. The people that are applying have dealt with the property owners who have objected; and if <br />that objection has been taken care of, then I think you’ve done a very good job. <br />ALAMEDA: Thank you. Any other questions? Commissioner Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA: Yes. Although one of the objections of Ms. McCrary was about the large <br />vans and the beeping noise when they back up and the fumes from them, that does not seem to be <br /> EXHIBIT A 5 <br /> <br />