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going to fill that in so you know I think from a public safety standpoint maybe that, that€s also a <br />benefit that we haven€t really discussed at this particular meeting. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you Commissioner Watanabe. Commissioner Springer? <br />SPRINGER:I€m looking at photograph number 8. And in photograph number 8 the <br />portion of the sea wall that€s to our left of the photograph is somewhat higher and not as <br />hospitable, does not appear to be as hospitable for sitting on as what we see in pictures 3, 4 and <br />5. But if we follow the wall towards the gray building in the background, can you describe to me <br />what that gray building in the background is? And, any? <br />LIM:The buildings that are grayish, greenish on the north side of the property <br />are portions of the Hulihee Palace. So as a practical matter what, in terms of the lateral public <br />access what happens is they€ll walk along here or along the wall and then they jump over that <br />shortwallintotheHuliheePalaceproperty. <br />SPRINGER:Canyoudescribeformewhatisimmediatelyonthenorthsideofthat <br />section of the wall fronting the gray building with the windows? <br />LIM:I believe it€s a very small old house that was there and a fishpond Uncle <br />Billy says. <br />SPRINGER:The fishpond I believe is properly named Kiope and is that a historic site? <br />LIM:Yes, I don€t think we know for sure but it€s part of the Hulihee Palace <br />complex so I would imagine so. <br />SPRINGER:Which is certainly a historic site and maybe on the National Register of <br />Historic Places so in effect having public access to this area not only affords the view of Kailua <br />View that Commissioner Watanabe described as being unique and distinctive there€s also that <br />view into the Hulihee Palace, a historic site. If we look at photos 3, 4 and 5 we see a number of <br />people using the lawn at Kona Inn and those appear to be photographs taken during daytime <br />hours. At sunset time the number of people that go to the sea wall increases rather dramatically <br />and I know that there are folks who don€t necessarily like to or don€t necessarily prefer to enjoy <br />the sunset amongst a crowd of folks. And I know that there are people that go towards Kiope <br />Pond to enjoy those late afternoon hours. So there is some public access towards the north side <br />already that would be enhanced by this. And I think also body boarders go towards the north <br />side there to access the body surfing, body boarding break out there or the surf break out there. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you Commissioner Springer. It€s wonderful that we can have these <br />open discussions especially for the public to benefit kind of see where we€re coming from as <br />Commissioners. Other questions or comments? We have a motion or go ahead Commissioner <br />Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:I€m the only one who didn€t put in my 2 cents here so I just wanted to say <br />that I didn€t think that-. I mean with that incursion however minimal but still it€s a good <br />EXHIBIT A <br />16 <br /> <br />