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percentage of the total area that is public area. And I don€t feel comfortable reducing the public <br />area by that much. By 8-1/2 feet whatever it is? But it€s 8-1/2 feet out and then the whole length <br />of that area there so, to me that€s a considerable amount of taking away public space. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. Commissioner Watanabe? <br />WATANABE:Just for clarification, I don€t believe that€s public area that€s private <br />property. It€s just that the public is welcome on the private property. But like I had stated earlier <br />I believe that the property owner has all the right to say you know, you€re not allowed here. <br />They€re just being hospitable in my opinion. So I really don€t see that as public area. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:Could I get a clarification on that point from the Director about, I mean is <br />shorelineaccessisrequiredbylawisn€tit?Imeanwhat€s,what€sthesituationhere? <br />ALAMEDA:DirectorYuen? <br />YUEN:It€s,no,it€saprivate,they€renot.There€sanSMA,there€sanexisting <br />SMA permit that does require public access in front of the buildings. But it is private, it is <br />private property. Let me clarify. What is the current? The current requires only a mauka-makai <br />there? <br />LIM:That€s correct. <br />YUEN:Okay so the fact that people are allowed to wander around the complete <br />area is a matter of actually of their grace as private landowners at the moment. If they wouldn€t-, <br />there€s only a requirement of access to the area but not that they be allowed to use the whole <br />area. <br />SIRACUSA:I see. Thank you for clarifying that point. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you for bringing it up Commissioner Siracusa and Commissioner <br />Watanabe. Commissioner Springer? <br />SPRINGER:Maybe just to give Commissioner Siracusa a better visual of this. As I <br />understand it from our discussion today the public access is indicated in photograph number 2 <br />where the public come out of the shopping area and then they go down the ramp and walk as if in <br />a straight line from the ramp to the sea wall there and I believe that that€s what (inaudible) public <br />access and that the landowner is hospitable and does not exclude the community from wandering <br />the lawn. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Graham? <br />SIRACUSA:Thank you that clarifies it for me a lot more. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />17 <br /> <br />