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HOUSEL: Mr. Ghalamfarsa, would you like to -? <br />GHALAMFARSA: Yeah, I have – thank you, Mr. Chairman – yes. Many days Dr. Haun and their <br />crew were on the site.I was there watching them. There is that area that Mr. Olson was referring <br />to; I could clearly see that they could not, because there is a filled area with boulders to the south <br />side of the property. I mean, they did a very thorough job on the mauka side coming towards my <br />property and going towards the three, four-foot high rock wall, but in the south and southwest of the <br />property, they did not. It’s very clear that those boulders are filled area. I have been involved in <br />many projects on Ali‘i Drive and in the island, involving archaeological sites, archaeological <br />inventory surveys and so on and so forth in many projects in fact on Ali‘i Drive. I’m very familiar <br />with how the work is done; I’m not an expert, but as an architect, and I’ve been involved very <br />thoroughly. And I know, yes, if the grade is undisturbed, that is, that I can understand. But this <br />area on the south side of the house, it is disturbed; it has been filled. And I don’t think – and I’d <br />like to see what Dr. Haun has to say in that respect – I don’t think they did the right job. And I have <br />done quite a few projects that have quite extensive archaeological survey done. In fact, in other <br />projects I’m involved with Dr. Haun. So I totally support Mr. Olson and Jerome. Thank you. <br />HOUSEL: Do you have any questions of Mr. Kanuha? <br />GHALAMFARSA: No, I don’t. Thank you. <br />HOUSEL: Okay. Planning Director, do you have questions of Mr. Kanuha? <br />SELF: Good afternoon, Mr. Kanuha. <br />KANUHA: Good afternoon. <br />SELF: Just a couple of questions. Does your family have a unique relationship to <br />KANUHA: Yes, we do. <br />SELF: And does your family act as caretakers for their sites? <br />the State. <br />SELF: And for how many years has your family been actively taking care of these sites? <br />KANUHA: About twelve years, and there was many more people besides us, prior to us. <br />SELF: Okay. Thank you. <br />HOUSEL: Mr. Olson, do you have any redirect? <br />P. OLSON: No. <br />HOUSEL: Thank you. Commissioners, do you have any questions, or are you ready to consider a <br />motion? <br />28 <br />EXHIBIT D <br /> <br />