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on the makai side, way back. And there’s lot of ponds there. We used to play there before. And <br />my grandmother taught us a lot of things about there. There are some burial graves there yet. And I <br />know lot of those places there, they’re biting back at the people, if you know what I mean, after <br />they built. It’s like, it’s haunted. Okay? I don’t care what you do, it’s going to be haunted forever. <br />But I’m against building that condo. If these developers have gone and looked around and see how <br />many proposals we have here in Kona on the condos, time sharing, I think they should know better. <br />GONZALEZ: Somebody is leaning on the light switch. <br />PUBLIC: Haunted. <br />PONTES: Yeah, it’s haunted, yeah. <br />HOUSEL: I think, okay, I think that was a real person that did it, not a ghost. <br />PONTES: See what I mean? You look all along Ali‘i Drive, lot of those places have gone out of <br />business. Why? You know why. Okay. But here I am against building those condos there. I think <br />we do have enough. And Ali‘i Drive is just packed with traffic. We don’t have the roads. When a <br />tidal wave occurs, I don’t know what’s going to happen. They better look forward into this. All <br />I’m saying is I’m against building this condo, right in that area, or any place on Ali‘i Drive. Thank <br />you. <br />HOUSEL: Thank you very much for your testimony. <br />SEITER: Thank you for allowing me to speak. My name is Kevin Seiter. I live at 75-650 Mahi <br />Iulani Place, Kailua-Kona. And I’m here on behalf of the West Hawaii Surfing Association. It’s a <br />nonprofit corporation whose purpose is to preserve and protect the coastal assets –excuse me, I’ve <br />had some bronchitis – of West Hawai‘i. I know you’ve heard all the reasons not to do this, and <br />your purpose today, of course, is really very limited. So as much asI’d like to see moratoriums and <br />so on, that’s not why I’m here to speak. Nobody, we aren’t opposed necessarily to coastline <br />development, if it’s in the right place in the right manner. We aren’t opposed to people making a <br />profit. That’s the nature of the beast in this country. We are opposed for all the reasons that you’ve <br />heard to this project. <br />But the thing I really want to emphasize is by saying no to this today you aren’t depriving the <br />applicant of any money or property. You’re just saying back to the drawing board. And what this <br />does, if you say no, is it provides many opportunities for use of this land consistent with other uses <br />in the area, including what happened at Honl’s, Wai‘aha. And I had the pleasure of working with <br />the County to make that a park with Wally Aniban and a lot of people. And that’s what it was; it <br />was a really great joint effort of the private and public entities to put that together. That’s a <br />possibility here. And if you say no today, it opens up that possibility. Because I know that there <br />has already been some discussions from the Mayor’s office down, so to speak, about that <br />possibility. So by saying no what we’re doing is giving everybody an opportunity to put this to the <br />highest and best use – and that would be a public use. You know, anecdotally, when I worked with <br />Wally who has since passed away, on Honl’s, the thing that bothered him about the condo so close <br />to the shoreline was, he was asked during the contested case, “why are you doing this,” and he said, <br />“because I don’t want the little kids to feel shame when they walk in the shadow of that <br />condominium to get access to shoreline.” And, boy, I had chicken skin when I heard that. And I’ve <br />sat through a lot of these hearings on this side of the table, so to speak. I know a lot of the staff <br />12 <br />EXHIBIT E <br /> <br />