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many structures. Im not sure if thats the case or not. Perhaps Mr. Lim would care to comment on that and let us know if they have been paying taxes based on, I dont know if youve seen their tax bill, so -. LIM:I dont believe that there is an agricultural dedication for real property tax purposes. Perhaps Ill kind of go more into the, what we think the status is. The Applicants obviously have more unpermitted structures on the property that they should. And were working with the Planning Director to see if theres an alternate way to do that, other than go for a Special Permit. They had a well-attended community meeting last Thursday, and that was attended by the Pettuses, and I suspect most of the people seated to my rear here. And I think one of the big concerns that came out of that community meeting was the concern that the agricultural nature of the area would be compromised. And that, the biggest concern, I think, was the concern over any kind of a precedent for a permit used for a non-agricultural use. So David and Sharon Pettus were there; and I think they heard the concerns and they understood;andIthinktheycommittedtothecommunitythatwereworkingwiththe Planning Director to see if theres another way to skin the cat. I mean, frankly, theyre in a situation of having a lot of these unpermitted dwellings on the property because, frankly, like I told them when they first came to talk to me is I think they were too nice for their own good. But I think everybody is trying to reach a reasonable solution, and theyve already committed to the community that theyre going to do that. So, I guess, my suggestion for todays hearing would be we should take up the matters of the contested case request by Cheryl Green and by Gary Washburn, and the Applicant will take no position on those requests. And then if the people from the public would like to testify on the matter, we take that, and then we would be requesting a continuance of the contested case hearing. And, you know, issues of the, on the merits for an undetermined time, that we would be then trying to work with the community and the Planning Director to reach a good solution on this for everybody. FUJIKAWA:Corp. Counsel Torigoe? TORIGOE:Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to mention something since Commissioner Siracusa mentioned the matter of trust. This has been spoken of before, but I just would like to remind you that when you issue these kinds of permits, basically, youre not issuing it so much to the current occupant or the person but youre issuing for the use of the land. So one way or another, please exercise care about, you know, the extent to which you are issuing or denying a permit, based upon your perceptions of the trustworthiness of the owner. Because if someone that you think is trustworthy gets a permit, they could sell the property to someone whos less trustworthy. So you really need to issue these permits based on the appropriateness of the use in light of the law, and you need to condition that in a way that you feel will be enforceable on whether the occupant is trustworthy or not. FUJIKAWA:Thank you, Corp. Counsel. 5