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SIRACUSA:Maybe I€m confusing this with one of the other cases but I seem to <br />recall something about the conditions of sale when the Pettuses took over the property <br />and that they were held responsible for, you know, as heir, successors and assigns for all <br />the terms and conditions that the previous, everything the previous owner had done. <br />They were there or responsible for the unpermitted dwelling and have delayed, and <br />delayed as we can see from the record here and from Mr. Lim€s statements. And, so, you <br />know, even though, yeah, I, what I was saying about matter of trust is that if we don€t, if <br />the Pettuses were to decide at this point to sell the property to someone else, then they <br />would be selling all the problems along with it. Those would be inheritable, so to speak. <br />I mean, it would go on to the next owners, all the unpermitted dwellings, and that sort of <br />thing and, also, the responsibility to abide by the conditions. But we can just keep <br />passing this along, it runs with the land like a deed? I mean, I have problems with that, <br />yeah. <br />FUJIKAWA:Commissioners,anyquestionswiththeApplicant€srepresentative? <br />You have something to say, Steve? <br />LIM:Nothing further. I guess we should move onto the contested case <br />request and -. <br />FUJIKAWA:Okay. Commissioners? <br />YUEN:I think you need to call the, call the people who are making the <br />request for a contested case. <br />FUJIKAWA:Before we continue, I€d like to call the people who€s making the <br />request for a contested case. Who were the applicants? <br />YUEN:Washburn and Green. <br />FUJIKAWA:Mr. Washburn and Cheryl Green. Please step forward. You may <br />sit down. Will you hand the mike over, Steven, to them. Would you like to raise your <br />right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai  Planning <br />Commission? <br />WASHBURN:Yes. <br />GREEN:Yes. <br />FUJIKAWA:Start with you, state your name and your address, Cheryl. <br />GREEN:My name is Cheryl Green. My address is P.O. Box 307, Honokaa. <br />I live above Velez Road. <br />WASHBURN:Gary Washburn. My address is P.O. Box 2433 in Kamuela. I live <br />right below the Pettuses. <br />6 <br /> <br />