2023_08_15 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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around you. This is kind of what we saw Kapu community on Mana Road and the fire screaming down the hill from then from all this land up mauka. You’ll still in trouble, and so yeah, evacuating your cattle or your animals at 100 miles an hour winds, is really difficult. So, what we’re talking about like this has to be on a large scale, full landscape scale and the like the change that were dealing with grappling with going from full scale. I can show you maps of sugar cane around Lahaina it’s the whole space around Lahaina for example, it was all sugar cane, and it gets taken away and so if you’re not doing something of that same scale, and if you’re dealing with the grasses and the fuels that are left behind after this after the operation pulled out you know one little manini spot is not really going, unfortunately do it. But what we are trying to say these guys are scared, there are worried, they are taking action and this is the example that we need to do, we need to get them more resources. We need to get people access to water access to land. I mean wadding in the thick of some heavy-duty political battle here to make changes that we didn’t make, and this could have been prevented. AA: District 5 – Abraham District 5 remember this commission mission is for game resources not cattle. CT: Good point good point, sorry. AA: District 5 – Any more questions for Clay just try to stay away from the cattle and stay on topic of what the commission is for, it’s for our game animals. Any other questions or comments from the commissioners or public? RD: District 1 Robert Duerr thank you Clay for your efforts and your work. We really appreciated. CT: No problem. NR District 7 – Natalie District 7 Stanley Mendez has his hand up in the chat. SW: Corp Counsel – I’m trying to deal with that. AA: We’re getting it Natalie. NR: District 7 – Okay. RD: District 1 - Clay you mentioned that some of the experience you’ve seen on the Big Island is Environmentalist and anti-pigs, forces don’t want to see ungulates and sheep forces, don’t want to see ungulates on the landscape at all. Are you seeing a change in that? Are you seeing a way, that view that they have, that ungulates managed, that they can actually work in the landscape? CT: I’m seeing a big change. I think the change so far has been there, like about manage grazing cattle and so to me it’s like maybe baby steps. I think that the folks what fires 12