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AA: Ah, yeah, you guys get some great comments that you guys came up with that at that meeting, um, number one is the trapping, um, giving ‘em out to just anybody – that becomes a danger in reality. And, cause, I’m a trapper, you guys all know that I trap pigs – I’m up to over 100 pigs just to rate it this year. Every pig is different. On social media there’s more and more people saying that, ay, call me up. I catch these pigs. But the state or the County does not certify anybody as a certified trapper. Even me, I don’t really call myself as a trapper, but I can do it and I do it in a safe manner. I’ve been doing it for about seven/ten years now. I’m lucky I didn’t lose any limbs, didn’t get stabbed by one then I do it with kids, right, so I use them. Brian is also a trapper, but, you know, there’s no certification that’s saying that Brian is a trapper. I know about five other trappers and \[unclear\] one of ‘em too – we pretty much do it as safely as we can. Now if you go – depends on what neighborhood you’re in. You cannot even dispatch it by shooting it ‘cause then you can break laws and you can get arrested, right, because Hawaii just has some strict laws. So just dispersing the traps out to just anybody that’s – I say that’s unsafe. You really got to know what you’re doing, how you’re doing it and then, you know, take ‘em either alive/dead. If you’re going to take it dead how you going kill ‘em? Because if that’s your pig that you say you’re feeding even though it’s a wild animal and now your neighbor caught ‘em and then your neighbor going have me come in and shoot ‘em or whatever – whichever means I use to dispatch this animal – now you open myself up to getting arrested and everything like that – so it’s looking out for the next person, right, the next trapper, the next hunter, the next poacher or the next gatherer – whoever in you guys choosing to take these animals out from the traps. It’s a great idea – don’t get me wrong – but who’s gonna protect that person? Right? And if you’re not certified and you’re not doing it the right way if, if that person gets hurt now that person can go back and sue the property owner, yeah, so, in that part just be careful – I say to be careful with that – that opens up a lot of can of worms. AK: Sir a really good point. I, again, I’m coming to the GMAC and wanting to engage the experts so that we can build a responsible program that works, where folks are safe, where no one’s getting hurt and so because we don’t have a certified pig trapper program why don’t we come up with one? BL: \[Unclear\] idea? AK: Right? And I would want to make sure that anybody that is part of this project getting a trap and then being given the kuleana of to remove the pig from the trap – is meeting their minimum requirements so that I can feel good and we can all feel good about folks that we are deploying out to be part of this project. Cause it just takes one mistake… AA: Yeah. AK: ….to ruin it for all. And so that was the point of the conversation was to get feedback like this so that we could architect something that works and keeps communities safe and also addressed the problem. SW: Deputy Corporation Counsel, Sylvia Wan. So, I’m just going to note for the record as far as developing a program like that – you would have to get state entities involved – most likely the Department of Health as well as DLNR as well as whoever is actually governing… AA: Abraham, ah, again, me and Brian already discussed that with DLNR. 10