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SW: Yeah. <br /> <br />AA: They’re not in support of it – they don’t want the liability of that of a trapping program or I’ve, <br />we’ve reached out to others… <br /> <br />AK: But they did once before – they have provided funding years ago – the state did – DLNR did – <br />where they had a program – they were working with local hunters. It was very successful – they <br />never re-upped the funding for that program. <br /> <br />AA: Well, maybe that’s why they didn’t want re-live, but basically, they said that they didn’t want to <br />take the liability. <br /> <br />AK: Is there anything that… <br /> <br />AA: There’s, there’s some traps that they leased out that, you know, they kinda give out to the… <br /> <br />AK: I have a question for the Corporation Counsel. Um, on the certification piece, is there anything <br />that the County can do say through R & D that says in order to participate in this program we <br />need you to meet a, b, c criteria. <br /> <br />SW: So presently that’s kind of outside of – I can talk to R & D to see if that’s something that they <br />could encompass within the scope of their department. But presently, the biggest hurdle with <br />the County has is that the entities that govern most of game management issues are actually <br />state entities. Like the – we have very few entities that even deal with even just the land – like <br />we have Parks & Rec within the County but, again, Parks & Rec doesn’t deal with hunting and <br />gathering and all of that it’s more the state levels, so even if R & D was to do something like <br />that, um, they would probably still partner with the state. That’s… <br /> <br />AK: So, somebody’s finding a loophole on Kauai because they’re doing everything that I’ve described <br />here… <br /> <br />SW: I’m not saying… <br /> <br />AK: …. without any kind of certification from the state and they’ve been doing it for years, no one’s <br />gotten hurt, no one’s gotten sick. So, I want to do things pono, right, I want to make sure that <br />we are laying a really solid foundation for all of this good work… <br /> <br />SW: Um-hum… <br /> <br />AK: Um, and so maybe we should talk story with friends on Kauai to understand their process. That <br />way it’s easier to get what we are looking to do here off the ground. But I like the idea of <br />working with folks that we can trust and are responsible – to trap and harvest. <br /> <br />SW: So, it might be a combination of efforts between R & D, Parks & Rec as well as the state. Just to <br />make sure… <br /> <br />AK: Why would do it with Parks, sorry… <br />11 <br /> <br /> <br />