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th AK: Yeah, so when I was in Hawaiian Shores for that event on April 20 they talked about – there were state DLNR folks there and USDA… AA: Um-hum. AK: There are very few folks that are actually doing the blood testing here on our Island and the sad fact is it’s actually like a two-week turnaround time to get any results so we definitely want to make sure our Island is represented in their data count so I think that this project can help to contribute to that but I also want to understand how can you test more rapidly and what will it take to set up that infrastructure on this Island. AA: Abraham. So per what they said is they need more funding to get more employees to get more time – they’re not properly staffed, right? There’s also a person out in Waimea, I forget his name, um, that he catches the pigs and then isolates them or quarantines them – does the samples – and then he actually had a wild boar restaurant out in Waimea and that’s pretty much how he was getting from this one particular guy. Made sure it was all clean and then sold the meat to that one particular restaurant. AK: See. There’s a market for it, you guys. AA: Four, Point 4. th AK: Yeah, OK. Couple more points and thank you for your feedback. Um, the 4 Point is going to be a feasibility study to identify suitable locations for processing facilities and this is gonna be based off of again Points 1, 2 and 3. The trapping program, the carcass breakdown and then culinary value-added product development. We would want to identify what equipment personnel and infrastructure needed and what it would cost to establish and operate these facilities. We would want to identify who can, who would benefit from these facilities and then convene a meeting with various partners to determine who has interest, um, and ensure that there’s participation from state and federal partners. My understanding is that there’s an under- utilized mobile fire house on our Island that needs to be acquired. It is currently using in West Hawaii. I wanted to chat with Chad Hasegawa as part of this project to just understand. I think I know what the obstacle is but I want to hear from him what the obstacles are, but say, hey, can we borrow the slaughterhouse for certain portions of our project, especially when it comes to the trapping and the harvesting. But it sounds like there’s a real need, right, to be, um to being something positive with the feral pigs. The last point of this Plan was something that one of our community partners at Malama o Puna – had recommended and that was to work with large landowners as well as \[unclear, sounds like Bass\] folks like DLNR, Natural Resources Conservation Services and \[unclear\]. And, again, work with large landowners to test sperm disruptors – not just HogStop – and we want everything to be fully closed and contained but at the event in Hawaiian Beaches one woman had mentioned cotton seed as sort of like a natural birth control sperm disruptor. I see Abraham shaking his head again, um, are they the same thing? They are? OK. So HogStop is not a chemical? BL: It’s cotton seed oil with some other inert ingredients. AK: OK. 14