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makaha – so you open the inside gate they drop the makaha and they close the back. But the
<br />old practitioners let the big one go first – they doesn’t go – this is my contribution to the ocean.
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<br />LT: Um-hum.
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<br />RN: Going down well is the big one is gonna lay eggs and they gonna come back and that’s what
<br />they do – this is the practice, OK, because I talk to Ika-shibi fishermen – they say they catch –
<br />they see those big mullet in the ocean at night when they catch the fish – he be with the light
<br />they see out there – single – all that \[unclear\] eye \[unclear\]. These are the ones that \[unclear\]
<br />once you let them go. So is this, you know, can fish, you know, can, can Hawaiian fishpond
<br />practitioners, you say, that’s the way to say the state – can we give you back – making us less
<br />burdensome to give us permit and all that nonsense cause I’m gonna give back to the ocean.
<br />That’s a strategy maybe cause you get revive – it took many years and many thinking and many
<br />dealing on the head by not eating fish – you cannot eat fish from their fishpond, right?
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<br />LT: Yeah.
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<br />RN: But to be able to have the fishpond be part of the solution and this is where the Hawaiians
<br />\[unclear\] ways. So anyway, just an idea, yeah?
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<br />LT: Yeah. Mahalo. Yeah, we got four acres of our total of 11 is the fishpond right there at
<br />Onekahakaha so, um, I actually interned and I was teaching at Heeia on Oahu.
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<br />RN: Oh, good, oh, that’s good fishing.
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<br />LT: So, I was the land manager for the 78 acres in the valley where they taking down those steps
<br />now, but I opened up the lo’i. And, like you said, at the poowai and the punawai, um, you know,
<br />we end up at the fish pond in Kaneohe so, um, I did all, you know, take the invasive limu from
<br />the fishpond – put ‘em in the lo’i and try and regenerate the whole system – so I’m trying to
<br />figure out how to do that over here and it kinda seems like you want that path too to figure it
<br />out – so thank you and I’d love for you to come back.
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<br />RN: It’s a philosophy that we all, you know, no shame with philosophy, you know, the very sad thing
<br />is we all go to the mainland, yeah, but then the same time OK you do it your way but we do it
<br />our way and we’ll make shame that we do this way, yeah, so, anyway, I’ll stop. Thank you.
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<br />LT: Um… Any discussion from the rest of the Commissioners?
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<br />RD: Ah, Duerr, District – 1. Cortney and I were just basically secretaries – the man with the kuleana
<br />was Leomana, you know, and you’re here on behalf of his, his reign as Chair of GMAC.
<br />LT: Sir?
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<br />PD: Yeah, Pali, ah, District – 2. Um, I grew up in Kau. Live at Punaluu beach. And, ah, Kau district you
<br />can put three islands in Kau district.
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<br />RN: Yeah.
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<br />PD: And there’s no running river.
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