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PD: Yeah, that was in, well, going about how we weren’t arrested because they threw the case out – everybody has a right to high water mark – I was getting to that point. SW: OK. PD: And the other point is that we have a corporate counsel that sits in our meeting and admitted to me that she doesn’t have any understanding of native rights in Richardson School of Law. And fish and game, fish and game is all about native fishing rights and hunting rights. So if you don’t have that experience, I can see the problem we have here in this Commission that we have a corporate counsel that doesn’t have that background understanding – how to defend natives and your part about how you respect the natives even though you’re not one – so you can see the problem we have where we have corporate counsel that don’t know about our rights – mauka/makai – especially fishing and hunting. SW: I’m… PD: So, I give you back that. SW: OK. And I’m just going to put something in the record, Deputy Corporation Counsel Sylvia Wan – my role as a corporation counsel is not to advocate for native rights or to advocate for any, anything, really. My role is to ensure that this Commission meets its responsibilities under the charter – doesn’t exceed its authority under the charter – that it follows Sunshine Law and that it follows Robert’s Rules of Order. So really, I’m more in the role of a parliamentarian if you want to look at something like that – then, then anything else. I don’t initiate any kind of cases or anything like that. PD: Yeah, so I think you should step down and let more of a legal person to come and stay at our meetings. SW: That – my role is defined… PD: \[Unclear\] hunting and fishing that… SW: My role is defined by the charter and whoever takes my place would be doing the exact same thing. PD: Well, you know, the County just submitted a bill, ah, 145 that you’d have Hawaiians on all the commissions and swear to the constitution and if you’re not swearing to the constitution on my rights then I think you should be removed. SW: Mr. Dedman. I’m sorry but that’s beyond what’s on the agenda and we only have two minutes left, Chair, so it doesn’t appear that there’s enough – would you like to orally continue those matters? LT: Um, we can just move forward and before we end the meeting, I just wanted to get this one update because we’ve been talking about the dredging, of Wailoa River mouth long time – so we have an actual update, so I just wanted to get this update for us because… 30