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Board public hearing, and then it’s a two-year rule change, temporary rule change process. <br />There wasn’t a public meeting, well \[unclear\] DLNR was a public meeting, which was not, it’s not <br />like a sit down with constituents, those rules changes, that rule change was \[unclear\] came <br />about for various different reasons mostly safety, but, yeah, the best way that we had to <br />disseminate the rule change was to postdate it. I think there was an announcement, does that <br />answer your question? <br /> <br />JA: No, I found it, but, and spring turkey was part of that rule change as well. <br /> <br />JPC: Yeah. <br /> <br />JA: But it was not posted as every other hunting announcement is on the DLNR page. They’ve been <br />lacking, I’d say DLNR in general’s been lacking with their announcements, whether it’s aerial <br />eradication on Mauna Kea or whatever, it’s no longer being posted on the DLNR announcement <br />page. <br /> <br />JPC: OK. I’ll follow up on that – I thought they got posted but, I can double check and get back to you. <br /> <br />JA: I appreciate that. Thank you. <br /> <br />JPC: Thank you for bringing it up. <br /> <br />LT: Mahalo, that was a good one – no wonder I didn’t see it. Ah, OK. Any more discussion, questions <br />from the Commissioners? <br /> <br />RD: Ah, District – 1, a question. Piha fencing, that’s been an issue in front of this Commission – is <br />there a fencing project at Piha. <br /> <br />JPC: Ah, no, there’s not, I think the subject comes up and talk about in the greater DLNR \[unclear\] <br />wildlife that Piha is on people’s radar, um, as a potential, as, as an intra-area of interest to get <br />fenced because of the fences around it and, and the resources that, that are out there but,as of <br />now, it’s not occurring, fence project – anything on the ground, anything back in the process to <br />lead up to a fence project. <br /> <br />RD: And then the second question is, so Mr. Hoeflinger brought forward that out-of-state hunters <br />are a huge part of what happens with spring turkey. Are you guys getting any feedback from <br />them on how they enjoy Hawaii, how to hunt goes for them, why they come here, how much <br />money they’re spending? You guys have any information on that? <br />JPC: I talk to a lot of ‘em, there’s usually like once, usually from late January definitely into February a <br />lot of people from the mainland start calling about, where to hunt and, some people are trying <br />to figure out how to get their out-of-state license – this and that. A lot of guys come – just <br />vacation – like a lot of guys I found that I talked to they’re coming like on vacation with their <br />family – they’re avid turkey hunters – they wanting to piggy back off of that – bring their rifle or <br />bring their shot gun, and go hunt up the mountain or – so there’s a lot of people – I guess that <br />on the mainland – from my understanding – it’s a huge culture it’s like why kill white tail, spring <br />turkey, I mean, there’s this movement that’s going on – they call it chasing 49 – a bearded <br />turkey in 49 states. Alaska is the only place that doesn’t offer spring turkey. There’s these guys <br />24 <br /> <br />