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Merit Appeals Board June 25, 2024 <br />CHR. CABANAS: Oh, okay. <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: totally separate— <br />CHR. CABANAS: Separate program. <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: We'd like to create more opportunities for people at these supporting levels to <br />create more opportunities for people to perform government service. <br />CHR. CABANAS: I sure hope when the departments—and I hope they did that I hope they <br />reassured you but when they said they were interested and they would like to have a <br />development—Professional Development Trainee, have they received the buy -in from these <br />individuals who would be the mentors? <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: So, that's where we're not recruiting for anything. We're not filling any <br />positions until we get clear commitment from the department that says who the mentors going to <br />be, what the career path position is that they've selected. <br />And then, only at that point, would we begin because we can't recruit for something if we don't <br />have a plan and a program for them to go to. <br />CHR. CABANAS: I mean, the department can say, "Okay"—I'll use myself—"Gabriella, you <br />as the supervisor would be the mentor"—but did they touch base with Gabriella to get the buy in <br />from her? That's where I'm concerned because what is the mentor getting in return? <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: So, and that's not a question I can answer because it's the departments that <br />are that have to provide this documentation to us, to say that they're interested, who the <br />mentor's going to be, what their career path position is. So, I'm not having those discussions <br />CHR. CABANAS: Yes, Sommer—I know you can't answer it now but what I'm saying is, this <br />is something that should be thought of a little bit more because it could be problematic, it may be <br />okay. But part of this whole thing is visualizing the big picture—it's like make sure—ensure <br />that they have received the buy -in from the mentor. Because sometimes what happens is, they <br />just say, "Okay, mentor, you're going to get a person working with you but you got to train the <br />person and" you got to get the buy -in in order for it to work. <br />So, it's like just make sure that they do have that—that's my concern for it to be a success. <br />And why I ask so many questions is because I want it to be a success for your department and for <br />all of them that's why I've asked so many questions. But I really feel like I don't want it to be <br />a dead-end for individuals in the development training program. I don't want it to be a dead-end <br />because they could easily go work for another employer. <br />I mean, yeah, people do leave, but you this is the whole part of it. Recruitment is part of it. <br />Retention is another. Recruitment, engagement, retention that's the package. You don't want <br />Page 21 <br />