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Nishimoto: Okay, anything else? We did see that in Vermont as well when we went,
<br />they showed us pictures of what it looked like in the can, you know so that was
<br />interesting. Okay, so I believe we are going to have a recess until 1:00 p.m. for our
<br />public hearing. So, we will reconvene back here at 1:00 p.m.?
<br />Takase: Well, maybe do this, we can't go over until 11:00 a.m., but the public hearing
<br />is coming up on the rules, but if you folks have any questions on the rules maybe ask
<br />now.
<br />Greenwell: Like what kind questions?
<br />Takase: Whatever your questions are, so come 1:00 p.m. you guys are a little more
<br />clear, I don't think anybody is going to show up, but in case people do and they have
<br />questions. If you have a question, you can ask that.
<br />Greenwell: Let's talk about the first item, we're going to define it as a half gallon, a
<br />gallon, what is the difference between wine and malt as far as serving in a growler?
<br />Takase: So, don't get hung up on the term "growler." Growler is talking about the container,
<br />not so much the size of it. But, if we go into the changes, what we tried to do was standardize
<br />the sizes, because we had all different sizes from retail, dispensers, so to try and bring them
<br />all close together, that's what we did. On the restaurants, we're going to go to half gallons,
<br />except for the ones that are regular dispensers, so restaurants went to half gallon.
<br />Gonzalez: Wineries are already at one gallon.
<br />Takase: Yeah, I think brewers we left at one gallon too.
<br />Gonzalez: Your Class 18 under R. (of the Rules and Regulations of the Liquor Commission)
<br />was like the Director said, they had one section that was half a gallon, and one section where
<br />it's one gallon, depending on what is being manufactured.
<br />Takase: So, the beers will allow a larger serving than wines just because of the alcohol
<br />content.
<br />Nishimoto: So, the important part is that when it is stated, it's going to define the
<br />capacity of one-half gallon, opposed to the Small Craft Producer growler size to one
<br />gallon, so it's going to be specifically stated like that under each?
<br />Gonzalez: I think what the Director said is this, an example is our Class 18 growler was
<br />specific in the material being used, it said glass, ceramic, or metal, but our rule changed
<br />and the definitions encompasses all of that, but it's more broad. So, it just says recyclable
<br />or reuseable container, because we get questions from people asking why can't they use
<br />glass or a BPA-free (bisphenol A -free) plastic.
<br />Takase: Or plastic bucket, or they want to fill milk jugs.
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