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Merit Appeals Board <br />January 30, 2025 <br />MR. OKINAKA: The recruitment process ends after we tally the scoring —complete the <br />promotion that's the recruitment process. That list is still eligible for promotions, but the <br />recruitment process has ended. <br />MR. HONG: So, did you see the letter fromoh, here it is the Department of Human <br />Resources, to my client, dated September 9 h, 2024? <br />MR. OKINAKA: I don't believe I did. I'm not sure. <br />MR. HONG: That would be our "Exhibit 2" to the appeal. <br />MR. OKINAKA: No, I did not receive a copy of this to my knowledge. <br />MR. HONG: So, let me suggest this. I'm going to ask you questions based on this document, so <br />if you could just read it over to yourself silently and when you're done, let me know. I'm just <br />going to have a couple of questions. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Mr. Hong, are you referring to the September 9, 2024, letter? <br />MR. HONG: Yes. Our "Exhibit 2" to the appeal. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Right. Okay. <br />MR. OKINAKA: Okay, I read it. <br />MR. HONG: Thanks. So, I'm looking at "Exhibit 2" September 9 h, 2024, letter to my client <br />from Ms. Tokihiro. Your testimony is you never saw this letter before? <br />MR. OKINAKA: Correct. <br />MR. HONG: Do you recall having a meeting with my client where you had talked to someone <br />from the department told him and others that they were being demoted? <br />MR. OKINAKA: I know I met with JonahI cannot recall exactly what we discussed, but it <br />was pertaining to this situation, yeah, what demotion, what —at the time, we consider was a <br />demotion but was actually, officially, a reinstatement, I guess. <br />MR. HONG: Okay. So, you told him he was going to be demoted and sent back to the WSO <br />MR. OKINAKA: I did not I think DHR provided a letter. I didn't officially provide that <br />statement to him. <br />MR. HONG: And the department did publish some kind of a reinstatement list, right, that people <br />got reinstated to their positionsWSO II —like my client. <br />Page 20 <br />