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Merit Appeals Board January 30, 2025 <br />MS. TAVARES: It's on the previous page, "Exhibit I." <br />MR. OKINAKA: Yeah, it's a Personnel Order I believe. Is that what you're referring? <br />MR. HONG: (Inaudible.) <br />MR. OKINAKA: Our Personnel Order —correct. That's our Personnel Orders that anytime <br />there's personnel movements from one position to another for promotions or whatever just <br />even transfers —an Order, like this, is issued. <br />MR. HONG: And when you say it's "issued" that's department -wide? <br />MR. OKINAKA: Correct. <br />MR. HONG: Is it posted at the stations? <br />MR. OKINAKA: I'm not sure if they post it at the station anymore because we utilize email a <br />lot, so they may not post it. But it could very well get posted. <br />MR. HONG: Okay. So, when you say "emailed" who is it emailed to? All the department? <br />MR. OKINAKA: Entire department. <br />MR. HONG: The entire department. <br />MR. OKINAKA: The entire department. <br />MR. HONG: So, everybody that participated in the recruitment knew when you post —when that <br />memo came out, that Order came out —that my client was now pushed back down to WSO II? <br />MR. OKINAKA: They would know. The one caveat is with Ocean Safety, because of the <br />makeup of the Ocean Safety Division and the Water Safety Officers work in Towers they don't <br />have computers to be able to check emails—and not all of them have email accounts. <br />So, anytime we have communications like these that is distributed to the department, it is the <br />duties of the captains and/or lieutenants who have access to computers, to print and notify each <br />employee. But, yes, every employee should have access to this information. <br />MR. HONG: Do you know whether or not my client was being ridiculed or humiliated by his <br />co -workers — <br />MS. TAVARES: I'm going to object to this. <br />MR. HONG: —about his demotion? <br />Page 21 <br />