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LT: Okay we have a motion on the floor, and we have a second, and right now we're, opening <br /> up for General Plan discussion. Anyone want to start a discussion on the General Plan? <br /> RD: Robert Duerr District 1, having sat in, into a number of meetings in the General Plan, a <br /> little background on how Mr. Flaherty got involved here, is essentially a number of people <br /> testified and there were no questions asked, Mr. Flaherty made a presentation which <br /> dealt with Na Ala Hele, an essentially public access, the ability for the public to use trails, <br /> and he had a very professional manner. Subsequently, come to find out Mr. Flaherty is an <br /> accountant and has done large projects for numerous agencies. Including government <br /> and others. The second time, watching these meetings, it came apparent that it was a big <br /> task that was going the wrong direction. There were many people saying, "Hey, what <br /> about us? Hey, what about us?"So as a District 1 commissioner, I put in testimony, Saying, <br /> "Hey, I notice there's not a lot, there's no mention of Game Management, and there <br /> seems to be a problem." I think if were looking at Game Management, you know, why <br /> Game Management is important? Is for the very reason why the Mayor has asked this <br /> commission to help with an ungulate problem and at the very least it throws it back on <br /> us, that as Game Management Commission, that we've been battling since the start of <br /> this commission, and before the start of this commission, to have the State and other <br /> agencies, the Feds, have a game management plan in place. So, for example, Tho the <br /> State have Game Management areas, there's no game management plans for those <br /> areas. This document becomes, as Mr. Flaherty has pointed out, this document becomes <br /> a legal document. How this document will be used is primarily, it's not going to be used, <br /> by hunters, fishers, gathers, or native practitioners. This document, this General Plan is a <br /> land use plan, and this land use, is mostly used for by developers and by large landowners <br /> and large government agencies, who have property that have restrictions. This General <br /> Plan is under the State General Plan, State General Plan rules, and the Hawaii County Plan <br /> underneath. One problem that we have, by not addressing this, and not being a <br /> stakeholder and not being at the table here, is that the developers come in, into place, <br /> and Pepeekeo is a classic example. Continental developers came in after, after Mauna <br /> Kea Sugar went out of business and purchased over one thousand (1,000) acres. The <br /> County negotiated with that developer, that in the ability to develop that property, there <br /> would be access provided. This access would be deeded and would be legal. However, <br /> as time moved on, the power... <br /> SW: Mr. Duerr, could we go back to the General Plan, like you're recommendation regarding <br /> where specifically you would like to make some changes? rather than the history lesson? <br /> RD: Could you, could you...excuse...Point of Order...I'd like to continue, right, what ends up <br /> happening here, is that, these money, for example, these money interest at Pepeekeo, <br /> they then stop access for fishers, and stop the ability for local family to go to the shore, <br /> in an arbitrary move and the County, the County in that, in that situation, when <br /> Continental sold to a new developer, and the new developer put a gate up, all of a sudden <br /> 16 <br />