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local like ourselves, are confronted with a gate. We're not taking the gate down. When <br /> we go to the County, and we say, hey, listen, there's a deeded access here, can you help <br /> us? There's no action plan, there's no, coming forward here, and getting, being <br /> stakeholder, understanding our needs of what we need, and what we need to <br /> communicate, tho it may not be effective, we may get run over, the fact that there is no <br /> General Plan in this,there's no Game Management mentioned in this General Plan, leaves <br /> us susceptible to any agencies, person coming and saying, I'm fencing, and I'm <br /> irradicating. I'm fencing and you're not coming in, in perpetuity. This is... What we are <br /> having here, when what we are seeing, is the, we're seeing, the land access taken out, <br /> not for today and tomorrow, but forever. So, this is something why this is important, and <br /> I feel that Game Management should be a part of this. The other thing is the mapping, <br /> like Mr. Flaherty was saying, and maybe we can bring Mr. Flaherty into elaborate a little <br /> bit on the three (3) points of the General Plan. One (1) the Proposal, and the item and <br /> the action item. And without the Action Item, it's meaningless, there's no teeth. So how <br /> do we, one, what do we need in this plan, and two (2) how do we get teeth in this plan? <br /> TWC: Tayson Wong Chong from, District 2. I'd like to comment to second to what Robert is <br /> saying, as a member of Makahanaloa Fishing Association as well, then, as I mentioned in <br /> a motion as we getting with the cultural practices, fishers and hunter gathers right, I <br /> understand what he is saying, with the whole, the access, you know, soon go out the port <br /> a little bit, as a Makahanaloa Fishing Association member, what he states about access is <br /> true. The reason why we need GMAC, and it would be great to have, you know, what <br /> we'd like to say professional outside help, to be included in this General Plan is because <br /> of the fact, yes, been a member for what, (13) thirteen years, been reaching out to, <br /> example, to the County due to the easement access and to the gate, still nothing has <br /> change in that (13) thirteen years. And I believe also, if nothing is done as far as Game <br /> Management goes, land will be taken, access will be denied in the future. Like, with this <br /> General Plan being read, and what Duerrwas saying, if you don't involve the words, Game <br /> Management, in a plan like this, in the long run yeah, I believe, I staying in right through <br /> my whole life, and even tho I'm one of the young guys commissioners here, when you're <br /> not giving the right legal words in a document such as this, it will get taken away. We <br /> don't want it to be not accessible for our future generation including ourselves. As long <br /> as we are here today, we wanna to enjoy stuff like this, so I believe that, you know, not <br /> only the County, but GMAC as well for the State. Ummm...off the record, as a member of <br /> the community, I attended the State GMAC meeting a few weeks ago and they were on <br /> board to do the same as well, to help draft a plan on the State side. So, I just wanted to <br /> make that comment to add on to that.... inaudible. <br /> BL: Brian Ley, District 4. We had people in the meetings here before, where we talked about, <br /> we have these same areas, and there were supposed to be deeded easement to these <br /> things, and supposedly access were permitted and we have gone back to the County, and <br /> you know, land owners bought the property now, with the lots easement to the areas, <br /> we have been getting animals areas, but we have no access. We have lost the access. <br /> 17 <br />