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RD: Yes,The Violin Pilot(A violin plot visualizes the distribution and probability density of data,
<br /> combining features of a box plot and a kernel density estimate to show not just summary
<br /> statistics but also the shape, skewness, and potential multiple modes (peaks) within a
<br /> dataset) You're essentially dealing with mathematical models, that is going to need
<br /> mathematician to understand. Now, obviously the state has it's feet in these models, but
<br /> to understand like you are saying, where...I don't hear how these models are working.
<br /> Essentially for us to impact we're going to have to have professional PHD's to be on our
<br /> side to help us digest this. One of the key piece of information here, was on the
<br /> count, they were saying, on the count, the males were outnumbering the females. So,
<br /> the genetic population bases were in material, because the males were not breeding. So
<br /> that's other...how many female's vs males. At the end of the day, it's a dismal report by
<br /> any means. But for us to move forward to have any kind of impact, essentially we are
<br /> going to have to...hunters have been in the court, inaudible...work to see, quite frankly, I
<br /> think if we combine with people that we now have an alliance with, the Sierra Club, Na
<br /> Ala Hele and we do a consultation with. Guys, the mountain birds what's going to
<br /> happen? Can we work on this, what is a viable alternative? Here's the other question, if
<br /> you brought in sheep are they going to able to take that fire load down? Do you have to
<br /> manually take afire load and have grazing animals come in? This is We've had guys...This
<br /> is a big issue. It's ... For us to go head on into court, is going to be, it's going to be
<br /> counter...we don't have guns, we don't gun, we don't have the manpower, we don't have
<br /> the guns. If we can work it out with other stakeholders, I think that's our best shot.
<br /> LT: Yes Sir, do you have a comment?
<br /> DY: My name is Dwayne Yoshina, I used to be on this commission.
<br /> LT: Yeah, Uncle Mahalo
<br /> DY: We weren't to affect, because we're still here. We're still talking about those same issues,
<br /> and you know, I really don't want to point fingers, perhaps cultivate an understanding
<br /> while we talked about this during our initial phases of our discussion, it was quite clear
<br /> whatever the state was doing, doesn't work. That's effort (?) So some of us were foolish
<br /> enough to ask the question, "So what are you guys going to do?and there was no answer.
<br /> The state has since many years ago catered to those interests that has the loudness
<br /> voices. And right now, those conservationists has a loud voice. And so, you have to go
<br /> talk to them and try to work together, as Bob noted, and you know the conservation
<br /> community, have to agree with what the hunters are saying. It's not the hunters, it's not
<br /> the sheep, it's not the goats, if it's in your equations, those are not the reasons, what are
<br /> you guys, the state and the feds, doing? You're just perpetuating a program that has
<br /> proved to be ineffective. You have got to the point where, okay what is effective? You
<br /> know, you have to start talking story with these guys. This person_??_she don't want
<br /> to come to the meeting, because she is afraid of you guys, us guys and unfortunately if
<br /> you go to the meeting and start talking like this, will they listen? I don't know. You know,
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