2025-07-15 GMAC Minutes Final Draft

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noncompliance said irradicate. The lawsuit when was a big BS. The hunters joined the state, because they thought the state wanted the sheep, but it was the opposite way around. John Caroll went back to the Supreme Court. I was part of it. He did not get support of the state. The state told him, "You want to go to court, go to court. Without the partners being together, the lawsuit is not going to happen. So, I think John Carroll is one of the last hunters from that organization to trial the state, I don't know how that's going to be. Okay, I went through this state, they talk about the bird population increasing, they have not said why. I read Environmental Hawaii; you guys know that magazine? Pat Cummings was on the news, Palila numbers down this and that, what is the problem? Their Concern is what is the problem?Sheep almost gone, essentially the sheep is not the problem,the problem is the rats and the cats, which back in the 90's they did this video, "Hawaii Born of Fire", they made this video they showed a rat eating the eggs and stuff, so they collared the rats and let them go, they collared the cats and let them go. If you catch a predator, kill, common sense. But honestly guys, it's all about the money. The Endangered Species Act, Federally Endangered species act states, Wildlife will be holding to the state, belongs to state, not the fish and wildlife service. You guys should carry this little book around,the Palila numbers has also gone down, because back in the 90's they forgot something like 5 or 7 mist nets, those mist nets were left there for days, all the Palila that went into the nets, all dead. They did the same thing in Kulani, I think at Kulani they had like 14 nets. So, the condition is work, you guys want to pursue this is work, go get the evidence. And if guys read some of the Palila reports, I do a lot of politics too, this involves politics. Back in Cayetano time...I read one, the Palila nest is empty because the Palila is an Aditi, (The assertion that the palila bird is an "aditi" is incorrect. A palila is a critically endangered Hawaiian honeycreeper, while Aditi is a prominent goddess in Hindu mythology. The two are unrelated concepts from different fields of knowledge.) it's here in black and white. Umm...Paul Cayatano went after Mike Wilson, big time, what kind of stupid report is that. The reports are stupid. LT: Mahalo Uncle thank you for that, I did take notes on that. We're going to jump forward to Mrs. Cortney Okumura and just watch this 5-minute video and I can give my mana'o about this, and we'll move on to the next agenda item. On the Screen we have Bret Mossman. (Video -with Q&A): What are your thoughts on the precipice decline of the Palila populations on Mauna Kea in particular thus far? 19