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<br />Salary Commission September 24, 2025 <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />MS. NAMAHOE: Right, but that was—right—and at the beginning of the meeting this <br />morning, that was my concern—was we know about Police, but do we know of others? And, for <br />me, I ask that question across-the-board because I’m wondering if that’s a Public Work’s issue as <br />well, since— <br /> <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: So, the difference as Jamie mentioned, is when we’re talking about salary— <br />we’re talking about base salary. So, there may be inversions that exist because subordinate <br />positions are able to earn overtime, whereas the department heads are not. <br /> <br />So, if we’re talking about base salary inversion, there may be instances of that—but it’s not <br />going to be as prevalent as other inversions that may occur because subordinate positions are <br />able to earn overtime. So, I think the majority of the inversion would be because of that and not <br />at the base salary. <br /> <br />So, even in the instance that Deputy Corporation Counsel Frenz mentioned between the Deputy <br />Police Chief and the Assistant Chief, the salary difference of $100.00 means that there isn’t an <br />actual inversion, but because the Assistant Chiefs are eligible to earn overtime, their overall <br />compensation would be greater, in some instances, than the Deputy Police Chief. <br /> <br />So, the—so actual salary inversion is going to be quite rare as opposed to compensation <br />inversion, which is not really something that this Commission can address because of that <br />overtime issue. <br /> <br />MS. NAMAHOE: So, thank you for that. So, just to make sure as we go back into that—where, <br />again, here in these points are you seeing this, perhaps, being irrelevant or inaccurate—which <br />statement? Old Number 10? <br /> <br />ʻAUHAU <br />MS. KAWA: Yeah—would it make sense if we changed it to “The COH Salary <br />Commission notes that department heads and deputy department heads may suffer from salary <br />inversion”— <br /> <br />MS. NAMAHOE: Versus “are suffering”— <br /> <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: Yes—or versus “quite often”— <br /> <br />MS. KAWAʻAUHAU: —so note “quite often” and adding “may suffer” instead of “are <br />suffering”— <br /> <br />MS. NAMAHOE: Okay. Fabulous. <br /> <br />CHR. PAVAO: Yeah, “may” is much better. <br /> <br />MS. FRENZ: So, it begs the question maybe, Director Tokihiro, as we continue that sentence, <br />would we say “where subordinate civil servant employees are paid higher salaries”—is that clear <br />Page 29 <br /> <br /> <br />