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O'Shaughnessy: I was not.
<br />Gonzalez: Yeah, as the boss and the owner, you just?
<br />O'Shaughnessy: Yeah, had to gather all the info?
<br />Gonzalez: Right. No so, actually I have an investigator that was there that night with Mr.
<br />Ikeda, Stefan Talerico if you guys have questions about how things went down, but I think Mr.
<br />Arvidson recited of how it happened. The investigators were outside walking towards the
<br />place and then they saw it through the glass, right?
<br />O'Shaughnessy: I mean I think to be fair if you ask them, they were at 4K and just kind of
<br />peeked because we have a partition wall that separates the two. They were next door and just
<br />came and kind of peeked around.
<br />Gonzalez: So, if you guys have questions about who was there and what they saw, I have an
<br />investigator that was there with Mr. Ikeda, yeah?
<br />O'Shaughnessy: And, we know them very well, we would let them in regardless you know,
<br />we talked to them every time they're there, we're excited to see them, we try and make them
<br />burgers every time. So, we're obviously going to go and let them in and you know, and say hi
<br />and be you know, we're friends. It wasn't even a guilty action, it was a hey, we did it, let's talk
<br />about this, you need to get all your info, we understand that. It was very cordial, very smooth,
<br />and very easy. And that's what I got out of as well, and Soren you know, said the exact same
<br />thing. So, that's again why we're here to kind of see what the verbiage is and how it all goes
<br />down, and how it all kind of plays in together. It just kind of all seemed pretty quick and a little
<br />bit of, yeah I mean, panic a little.
<br />Fuke: Any more questions or comments?
<br />There was no further discussion by Board Members.
<br />Fuke: Yeah, like from my point of view it was just like you know, I give you credit because it
<br />was kind of like self -reporting because you know the investigative report didn't say like I saw
<br />the person drinking. You know, as I mentioned it was just like you know, like an inference
<br />because all of the ingredients for like having to drink was there, and so it's kind of like self
<br />reporting, you know you acknowledge the violation, and so which is really great, to that extent
<br />give you kudos for that.
<br />O'Shaughnessy: Thank you.
<br />Fuke: Okay, since there are no other questions or comments from the Board Members,
<br />Ms. Frenz, could you read the proposed penalty?
<br />Frenz: Sure, the Department's recommendation is for a $500.00 fine to be paid within 30
<br />days upon receipt of the Decision and Order, in this case for the violation, payable to the
<br />Department of Liquor Control. As you've already indicated and they've indicated here this
<br />afternoon, they've taken responsibility, selected Alternative II. The timing I think everyone's
<br />kind of caught on to the timing, it's a very unfortunate set of circumstances in you know, in the
<br />timing, right? And thankfully we are here with this Alternative II type of hearing, and not where
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