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they're trying to contest whose watch was accurate because that could be problematic. So,
<br />do appreciate their forthrightness, their level of taking responsibility especially given the timing.
<br />think the fine is also in line and in fact frankly, some of the fines can be higher. The history,
<br />not with them but with other similar law violators, can be upwards of $1,000.00, sometimes
<br />more. So, the recommendation is to reflect the nature and the facts and circumstances of this
<br />case, so the recommendation again, $500.00 fine.
<br />Fuke: Okay, any discussions regarding the proposed penalty of $500.00?
<br />Hughes: Personally, I think the fine is too high for the circumstance, I would propose
<br />something more like a $250.00 fine with $250.00 suspended if there's no more violations.
<br />Fuke: Okay, I guess in concept similar to the other applications where the initial proposed fine
<br />was X, and then it was X minus Y. Board Members, any questions or comments on that?
<br />Hughes: I just feel there's too much gray area in this circumstance, that's my opinion.
<br />Fuke: Okay, thank you. You had your hands raised, so you want to say something?
<br />Arvidson: Just a quick question, what is the suspended mean, it's the 3rd time I've heard it
<br />about the fine, and then the suspended portion of that?
<br />Fuke: Yeah, in concept it would mean like, you have a $500.00 fine, right? $250.00 would be
<br />suspended and you pay $250.00. If there's like a similar type of violation over the next year,
<br />then you will be responsible for paying the balance plus any new penalty that may be imposed
<br />resulting from the new violation.
<br />Arvidson: Thank you.
<br />Fuke: Okay, so yeah, you heard what one of the Board Members is suggesting, a reduction of
<br />$250.00. May I have your response to that?
<br />O'Shaughnessy: Yeah, I mean again, we didn't know what we were doing, you know. We
<br />didn't know what we were getting into, or what the fines are or no fines, or what it would have
<br />been, so I mean we again, we understand what it is, and I think that yes, if you believe that's
<br />where it needs to be, then yeah, we'll take it.
<br />Fuke: Okay, thank you very much. Okay, Board Members, you heard the suggestion but
<br />there's no motion one way or the other, so is there a motion one way or the other?
<br />Hughes: Since I hear no motion, I'll make a motion that the fine is $250.00, with $250.00
<br />suspended for one year, if there are no more violations.
<br />Frenz: If I could, Board Member Hughes, could I clarify?
<br />Hughes: Yes please.
<br />Frenz: I think maybe, I'm not sure if I'm hearing incorrectly or if I misunderstood the original
<br />comment from you, is it a $500.00 fine with $250.00 suspended for one year?
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