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Salary Commission December 22, 2025 <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />only a handful of potential close situations for inversion but, again, there’s no overtime being <br />built into that. <br /> <br />Police and Fire have a lot of overtime because the nature—they’re first responders. <br /> <br />MS. OTSUKA: Thank you. That was a deputy police chief and the Planning Department—were <br />the two departments that showed that—that month. <br /> <br />So, if we’re basing everything on a comparative, wouldn’t you take several months or even a <br />year to see how bad inversion is before we just—I only saw that one, and I couldn’t clearly see <br />an inversion in that. So, this is the reason I question that. <br /> <br />MS. FRENZ: That’s, again, ‘cause it was base pay. <br /> <br />MS. OTSUKA: Right. <br /> <br />MS. FRENZ: That was not including the overtime. I just wanted to share that. <br /> <br />MS. OTSUKA: But it shouldn’t, right? The inversion shouldn’t take into account overtime or <br />longevity or step increases—from my understanding. <br /> <br />So, again, this is a frustrating thing because we only see what we’re shown. And we’re only told <br />what we’re—they want us to know. So, I appreciate what you do. I thank you very much for <br />your time and— <br /> <br />CHR. PAVAO: Thank you— <br /> <br />MS. OTSUKA: —Merry Christmas. <br /> <br />CHR. PAVAO: —thank you for your concern (inaudible) information—and thank you. <br /> <br />MS. OTSUKA: Thank you. <br /> <br />CHR. PAVAO: Okay. Anything else, if not, we’ll— <br /> <br />MS. FRENZ: I will just clarify, Chair, for the January meeting—in order for this Commission to <br />still hold a meeting in January, we’ll need at least quorum, which would be five. We currently <br />have only six of nine positions filled. So, if all six of you are still able to be present, I know that <br />Chair Pavao and Commissioner Namahoe terms end at the end of this month, but you can, by <br />Charter, holdover for 90 days if your positions have not been filled. <br /> <br />So, you can come through March of 2026, in the event you still want to hold meetings to approve <br />minutes, for example, such as the January meeting to approve minutes from today’s hearing, I <br />think would be very important, so the public is able to see those minutes get posted online and <br />see what happened—and the important conversation that occurred here, today. <br />Page 19 <br /> <br /> <br />