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Hawaii Police Commission <br />Regular Session Minutes <br />December 19, 2003 <br />Page 2 <br />PERSONNEL ORDERS <br />• Personnel Orders Nos. 2003 -137 to 2003 -147. <br />Commissioner Lambeth motioned to accept the Personnel Orders as listed. <br />Commissioner Frazier seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously. <br />COMMUNICATIONS <br />Vice Chair Manago motioned to accept the communications as listed. Commissioner <br />Lambeth seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously. <br />Correspondence 03 -112: Commissioner Frazier stated that the Chief, his staff, and <br />other police officers spend an inordinate amount of time waiting while the commission <br />is in executive session. He asked for suggestions for better utilization of time. <br />Vice Chair Manago stated that the meeting format was brought up previously. The <br />commission gave precedence to the public and police officers who came to give <br />statements on complaints, and decided to accommodate them by taking their <br />statements at the beginning of the meeting. <br />Chair Hara stated that the commission is an oversight body. To have the Chief, his <br />Deputy, and his Assistant Chiefs show up gives credence to the commission. The <br />commission only has meetings once a month, and it is not too much to have the <br />leadership there. It's hard to field questions for a general without his commanders. It <br />would be difficult to reschedule statements because they cannot be sure of the meeting <br />timeline. <br />Commissioner Bertsch stated that when he first came on the commission, he told the <br />Chief that they did not require his army's presence. However, over time he found that <br />having these individuals present far outweighed the time spent waiting. The agenda <br />varies greatly with regards to time. Sometimes they will finish by 12 o'clock and other <br />times it's 5 o'clock. Their number one client is the public, and he is in favor of keeping <br />agenda as it is now. <br />Corporation Counsel Ashida stated that he spoke to the Chief, and his preference is to <br />be at the meetings. <br />• Correspondence 03 -114: Corporation Counsel Ashida stated that, they needed to <br />decide if they would allow the public to provide statements in executive session. <br />Commissioner Bertsch stated that there are members of the public who feel that by <br />giving public testimony to the Police Commission, there could be retribution. The <br />theory behind the Police Commission is that it gives an individual the opportunity to <br />speak freely in either open or executive session. They might want to look at it as <br />serving the best interest of the public. <br />Correspondence 03 -115: Commissioner Frazier motioned to have this discussed in <br />executive session as it pertains to a procurement contract. Commissioner Lambeth <br />