2004-06-18 Police Commission Minutes

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Hawaii County Police Commissioner Regular Session Minutes June 18, 2004 Page 15 MASUDA: Mr. Chairman, if we're going to make b) and c) small i. and small ii., respectively, I think you're going to re- alphabetize all of them. BERTSCH: Well, we need to, but for the purpose of expedition of this particular meeting, I think we should hold with the actual titles and then reformat the document at a later date. HARA: Can we do that, secretary? DE SILVA: Am I the secretary? HARA: No, I'm asking the secretary. If that's okay, when we refer to d), we actually mean paragraph d). PELAYO: Yes. HARA: Because now we have a), a. i., a. ii., so d) becomes b). We can just go ahead and do that. Just go from d) down, b), c), d), e), f), g) on that first page. Okay? BETSCH: Okay, we're on- HARA: b) To the full extent authorized by law ... BERTSCH: We're on b), aka. d). I have a problem with this particular paragraph simply because it seems to be more in line with procedures of the commission, not with individual conduct. HARA: May we have discussion. BERTSCH: I agree with the message, but I don't think it applies to standards of conduct. I think it's more procedural and maybe should be some place else. Because I can't image bringing charges up to somebody for not doing this. DE SILVA: Coincidentally, can I say something about that? I think it's kind of important. These standards of conduct are just meant as guidelines. There's no provision in any of this that allows anybody to pursue anybody else or move that anybody be punished for it or anything. Although, he does have a point. I just wanted to make that clear. I looked at standards of conduct from several civilian review boards, and a few of them have provisions relating to some kind of sanctions against people who don't abide by them. Maybe someday we might want to consider that, but I didn't put any of that in here. But, John has a point.