2011-01-14 Cost of Government Commission Minutes

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MR. ARMOUR: Right. Because I don’t think you’ll get it to go in one quick motion to eliminate the state negotiation and just have it by counties, maybe give the counties more flexibility. MS. O’HARA: Do you remember in that presentation, for those supplementals, if the county wanted something different, they had to get the state on board to go into that negotiation. Is that the process as I recall? MS. PROVALENKO: That’s what I thought he said. Because it has to go to the governor. MS. O’HARA: It can’t be singly any one county and so they have to also MS. NICHOLSON: They have to recruit someone else. MR. ARMOUR: Because the governor has six votes and each county has one vote. MS. O’HARA: So, they have to bring in the state. MR. ARMOUR: So if the governor is not onboard nothing can get done. MS. NICHOLSON: The example he gave was very specific to the fact that Hawai‘i County does not have county police cars, and so they needed to negotiate a separate agreement because I guess Maui is all county police vehicles. So there was no commonality. So, I think that what Ken is suggesting is relaxing that even more so it’s not necessarily things where there’s no commonality, but in fact specific county issues. MS. O’HARA: Yeah. I agree. MS. NICHOLSON: Okay. 8.Putting in place an effective fair share system that allows collections at the time of permitting. MS. O’HARA: Well, he waivered back and forth between using fair share and impact fee. Impact fee MS. PROVALENKO: Because he’s pushing that. MS. O’HARA: I believe all of the commissioners are aware of the status of our fair share contribution system, which has been called out as illegal by the courts. MS. NICHOLSON: but put in place of Maybe we shouldn’t use the words fair share, an effective system that allows collections at the time of permitting. MS. O’HARA: It’s impact fee. MS. NICHOLSON: Well, whatever you call it. 26