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Where are you going to get the 16,000 people from? YouÓve got to go grab some from Kona.
<br />We can grab some from Puna, We can even try to reach back as far as Hilo, but thatÓs where itÓs
<br />going to go. Either way you in Ka, itÓs the desert. That is something for us to contemplate. I
<br />donÓt have a problem with starting over in Kohala and moving, but somebody is going to be very
<br />upset in Kona when they got to move into Ka. But, thatÓs the way it is. Or somebody in
<br />Hamakua that is going to come back into Hilo; Hilo moving over to Puna. It doesnÓt matter, we
<br />just going to have to be wise people; look at the districts that are out there now. Maybe not the
<br />configuration that we want, but IÓd like to remind all of the Commissioners that the island of
<br />HawaiÒi is, from a genealogical standpoint, and for me as a native Hawaiian, the make up of the
<br />island is as such. The Kumulipo, the beginning part of our ancestors, speak about the top of
<br />Mauna Kea being the sacred place. I could argue that we should go on the top of Mauna Kea
<br />and go out nine ways from there. But, I donÓt want to go into the ahupuaÒa, because IÓve got
<br />more than nine ahupuaÒa, and I canÓt do that. So somebodyÓs part of the ili of somebodyÓs
<br />ahupuaÒa is going to be in someone elseÓs. And thatÓs one thing that Hawaiians donÓt do, is we
<br />going to talk about ahupuaÒa, then we donÓt like go into that.
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<br />But, I would rather do it the way how the islands have been set up. There are six judicial
<br />districts on the island of HawaiÒi. Those districts are Kohala, Hamakua, Hilo, Puna, Ka and
<br />Kona. Those are the judicial districts of this island; thatÓs the makeup of this island. It was back
<br />that way in the Kingdom. So, I may just be expressing my thing about being a Hawaiian and
<br />being the host culture, being part of it. But, the representation should be just that too.
<br />Regardless of the fact that there is an area that grows by the biggest margin; Puna, by all stretch
<br />of the imagination needs some representation. But I donÓt mean to demean it by saying they are
<br />not being represented. If itÓs one man, one vote, they are voting. Obviously they are voting, and
<br />they are voting loud and clear. So we just need to, as Commissioners, need to find out, reach the
<br />best medium that we can get. Someone always is going to be unhappy, as Commissioners, when
<br />we get through dividing 185,000 people by nine. ThatÓs basically what our job is going to be. If
<br />we extrapolate, then maybe those people that that they say, non-residents that we can identify,
<br />shouldnÓt be counted. If we do, thatÓs going to be our task; 185,000 people divided by nine.
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<br />At the first suggestion that Mike made, I think itÓs a wonderful thing, to take Puna; Puna is the
<br />biggest place. I think we can get, if itÓs only a matter of 25,000 people in one district, I think
<br />Puna will have a district where 25,000 of them will be all in Puna, but there will be 22,000 in
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<br />someone elseÓs district. There is not going to be the 10 Councilman; itÓs going to be the 9
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<br />Councilman. There is going to be a district called the 5 and 6 District. The 5 District of
<br />Puna, thatÓs going to be out there, itÓs not going to change. ItÓs going to have 25,000 people in it.
<br />For me, IÓm getting a little bit more excited to get the software so we can then move with the
<br />numbers. Once we get the numbers, you, and all of us, probably we will be clicking forever.
<br />Mike has already put some things into our minds. He is saying that he went on it and fooled with
<br />it. So, you know, itÓs going to be something. ThatÓs basically what it is, so I would defer to any
<br />body, because eventually IÓll come back to what I need to do.
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<br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, thank you for your manaÒo. Jeff, you havenÓt given us
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<br />MR. MELROSE: I would just suggest that there are a variety of---I think that this is an
<br />alternative generation process, and so we should look at a couple of different alternatives and a
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