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MR. CARVALHO: Madam Chair. This is Joe in Waimea. We are unclear about the number of districts. Is it by Ordinance that we are limited to nine districts? But if we find out--We can form another district, is that possible? CHR. SIRACUSA: No. What we would do is we would divide the total census numbers by nine. The population number that we would aim for would aim for that resulting sum. We are not looking to add more districts. The County Charter, I believe, says that we are limited to nine districts. But we can have, as population grows, of course, we have more people in each district. And population moves also, and so some districts may lose population and others may gain. But we still keep it within the nine. MR. CARVALHO: Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: You are welcome. So, we were throwing out some ideas and I would like maybe for each Commissioner to throw out an idea about where the appropriate starting point, and then we could see about looking at various scenarios utilizing those starting points. And everyone, if they want to play with it on the computer, they can play with their favorite starting point and take it from there. Then we will see how it goes. IÓm just opening up the discussion at this point. So, Kona, do you have any ideas? MR. KANUHA: Sure, I mean the first thought I had was start at the northern most point; start at North Kohala and work your way down clockwise. To me thatÓs an option. There are so many other options that we can play with, but that seems pretty simple to me; the border between North Kohala and Hmkua. CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, that is one idea. So, we are using the clock as a template so to speak. MR. KANUHA: Sure. CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, Waimea? MR. CARVALHO: I think itÓs a great idea starting from North Kohala. CHR. SIRACUSA: I canÓt imagine why. (Laughter) MS. POINDEXTER: I agree with North Kohala and moving clockwise. MS. UGALDE: It seems to me that it is a real clean starting point; not starting in the middle of a district, so I agree. I like North Kohala too. MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA: I would start anywhere this body would want us to start and then based on the numbers; for me, itÓs always going to be about the numbers. If I canÓt get 25,000 people from Ka to South Kona, or Ka to part of Puna and back to Hilo, itÓs not going to work. We will be way outside of the tolerance. District 6 is going to be an animal. ItÓs an animal now; itÓs going to be an animal. The Representative there is going to drive forever. The census says there are less than 4,000 people in Ka. So we have got to put 20,000 people in that hole. 32