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They would call them nationals, Hawaiian nationals of the belligerent occupied legal
<br />nation state which was independent. But what I would say to them and to you today is
<br />that the United States constitution does protect persons. And it protects persons from
<br />excessive force. And what I was alarmed, that I’ve seen, which I don’t know if you’ve
<br />heard of it, but on April 5, there was a highly, what the Hilo police called a highly
<br />irregular procedure where police from Kona and Naalehu were called in and they had a
<br />native tenant right in front of my face, slammed on the ground. And even though I
<br />informed them I was volunteer for Federal agent Eric Arakaki, to protect these people’s
<br />native tenant right. And that I was seeking a Memorandum of Agreement which would
<br />actually save the county $6 million and all they have to do is go down and talk with the
<br />native tenant, work out something. And I’m speaking in particular of Kawa in Ka‘u. And
<br />in that incident, basically that the whole thing could have been avoided. One of the
<br />police officers was willing to work with the native tenant and was willing to call the U.S.
<br />marshal, SHIPPO, DLNR, all the people that should have been called sheriffs. But that
<br />wasn’t done. And then the county actually had a charge filed against them for
<br />constitutional right violations of the native tenant. So we want to make sure that, you
<br />know, I recommended to the Hilo police station. I’ve not given them a copy of the letter,
<br />but I’ve informed them of the letter and the report that was supposed to be going in. But
<br />I think it would do a lot to try to foresee and look at the type of protocol we have. And I
<br />was informed that the, which was a real shock to me, that the police, in particular, the
<br />Big Island, is not accredited and they have not been accredited this entire time. And
<br />they themselves stated that they were subnational standards. They do not know
<br />constitutional rights of native tenants. I’ve informed Office of Hawaiian Affairs about
<br />these issues so they are interested in maybe doing funding or looking at some sort of
<br />symposium or workshop or whatever to inform the police, the county, whoever is
<br />involved in this issue that there is no excessive force, what are the rights of the native
<br />tenant? And in this case of Kawa, and I have seen the documents myself just by going
<br />over the native tenant rights, that I believe is page 3 or page 4 of this quiet title action,
<br />native tenant rights were preserved. And so that even if you made Kawa into a park,
<br />the native tenant rights are still preserved. So, right now is a very adversarial situation
<br />which could be alleviated through proper consultation under Ordinance 0842, because I
<br />know that the County of Hawai‘i is seeking to be a certified local government. And then
<br />you would get a lot of funds coming in for historic preservation. Basically any building
<br />that is 50 years or older, you could receive funding. The whole Hilo, I don’t know how
<br />much funds are available. Like all Hilo bayfront, the Akebono theater in Pahoa, but also
<br />all of our cultural sites. But this includes, number one is consultation. And right now
<br />nobody knows how to do proper consultation.And they say, well, we talked to the
<br />Hawaiians. No, talking at them or telling them what to do is not the same as
<br />consultation. And so, I work also with Washington with NAPTHA, National Association
<br />of Tribal Historic Preservation Officers which are operated in this fashion to SHIPO,
<br />Theresa Donham in particular, who is trying to look at stopping encroachment on
<br />cultural landscapes. But the issue is that consultation is severely lacking and
<br />apparently nobody seems to know how to do that. So what we’re looking at as possible
<br />funding to come in and do the consultation protocol training. So, even if we don’t have
<br />funding coming in, I still suggest that we make an effort to preserve the integrity of this
<br />county. It would go a long way to alleviate a lot of issues under Genova IV human right
<br />violations. And then also under UNESCO, it’s illegal to sell or transfer cultural
<br />properties. In this case it has to do with allodial title. So, in that respect, it’s not so far
<br />off and it’s not impossible to do that. We just need to take a few positive steps and to at
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