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KK: Well my thoughts on that was, if we do allow you to do this, still there <br />would be fingers pointing —hey how come they can do it and we can't <br />do it, you know. <br />CHAIR: So, Karl, it's just like if someone in Planning, or Public Works, or any <br />other department, comes and says I'm also committed to doing pro Bono <br />work- <br />KK: - -well not necessarily pro Bono, but you know, how come they can get <br />an exception? I fully understand where you're coming from. I've read <br />this thing backwards and forwards, but I just —kind of a rhetorical <br />question down the line, down the road, just be aware that somebody <br />might point fingers. <br />CHAIR: Well perhaps he can point fingers at us, as a reviewing agency and <br />presumably the Mayor —has the Mayor been brought in on this <br />discussion at all? <br />ASHIDA: No <br />CHAIR: - -is it appropriate, do you think? <br />ASHIDA: I don't see whyI mean, he is both our appointing authority. He's <br />yours and mine. As a general rule, Mayor Kim tends to be very hands <br />off on boards and commissions. He's very good in that way—he <br />appoints and, even with departments, I can count on one hand the <br />number of times he's been to my office, and it's normally to say merry <br />Christmas. No, really —he's very good, he's very hands off. He lets the <br />appointees really do their work. <br />CHAIR: Well you made the point, the salient point was that he does count on <br />boards and commissions, us, as the watch dog. <br />KK: You know, with my skeptical kind of thinking, I thought that it might be <br />passing the buck to usoh, the Board of Ethics said it's okay, so it must <br />be okay, but I'm just looking down the road. This kind of thinking <br />might come up. <br />CHAIR: I'd like to ask the question, Mr. Kim, has this come up on Maui? <br />JDK: No. <br />CHAIR: Elsewhere? For any of the attorneys, has this come up elsewhere, been <br />an issue in other counties? <br />12 <br />