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ASHIDA: Well I can say that when I sought—you know, I looked for another <br />attorney from the other counties, from the other counties to come here <br />today, so I e- mailed my letter and what this is about to the other <br />counties, and they all, all my counter - parts, said hey, let us know what <br />comes out. It does—it will affect them, and I think that maybe for our <br />office, we just had a reaction to the plea that the Chief Justice and Judge <br />Ibarra made when they came down to Hilo that day, and so we sort of <br />just picked it up from there. So, it may affect, it may affect what other <br />counties do. <br />CHAIR: Well Karl, your concern was the de minimis time involved—in fact, <br />here we are, getting a fax, BJ for example, and the corp counsel is <br />working on something for Hilo High School PTSA or whatever, pro <br />Bono work and, because she cannot communicate with who she needs to <br />communicate with at seven o'clock at night when she's working, I <br />mean, she has to make some fax transmittal essentially, right. That's the <br />concession. So, are we using government time and resources to do <br />these extra - curricular activities, is that essentially it? <br />KK: I have a question, Mr. Ashida. I took Latin in high school, but I almost <br />flunked, so de minimis, what does that mean, in legal terms? <br />CHAIR: Bare minimal. <br />KK: I really want to know what is de minimis. <br />ASHIDA: I don't knowI don't know- <br />KK: Minimum use? <br />ASHIDA: Minimum, yes, and if I may just comment on Mr. Williams, Chairman <br />Williams' example he gave. Perhaps that's not the situation we had in <br />mind because for something like, if you're working on your Hilo High <br />School PTSA thing, or if I'm working on something on Kalanianaole <br />School, what have you, to the extent possible I try to do that at home, on <br />my own computer, my own resources. I'm talking about situations <br />where, if for example I'm a CAAP arbitrator, the people involved in that <br />arbitration aren't going to be available at night. They've to <br />have it heard during their regular work hours, so it's sort of us <br />accommodating that, so we're not —we're still trying to do it on our <br />own time, but what we're saying is that there will be times that we <br />cannot help but that it be done during the regular work day, which falls <br />within that, quote, County time. That's all we're saying. We're not <br />13 <br />