2005-11-09 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular mc

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CHAIR: Well, that doesn't mean the press can't pop in. Any thoughts on that? Even management—you've been in the Fire Department, right, not in management capacity. It's it okay to do this in open session? KI: I was the chief. CHAIR: You were the chief. I'm sorry —but you worked your way up. KI: Yes. CHAIR: And you've been on both sides of the fence. KI: Yes. CHAIR: Me, too. What's your KI: Okay, my opinion is that what Mr. Ganigan has brought up verbally, since he's sat here, basically does not address what he has written down here as provision for the specific Code of Ethics. He has brought up, since he has sat down here, union arbitration. He does not say that he is the union steward, and I don't know whether he's representing himself as an individual or he's representing the union as a whole. So if we're going to address this, we should address Section 2 -83. CHAIR: Absolutely. KI: And it has nothing to do, or nothing should be brought up, about the union arbitration or any other individuals except for Mr. Keliikoa or Mr. Harry Jose. CHAIR: My sentiments as well. Do we want to go into open or closed session? Call for a vote. All those in favor vote- PKO: -- there's no motion on the floor. KAMELAMELA: Yeah, there's a motion. And I do appreciate what Mr. Inouye has said because that's what we should focus on. But because of statements made by Ganigan, the things that I'm afraid of is that he may inadvertently bring something up that shouldn't have been brought up, and that's the only concern I have now. If we keep it open the way that Mr. Inouye says, I would have no problems, you know, because then I know that . Okay. CHAIR: Okay. I would like to hear a motion to stay in open session or come up with a motion to remain in open session. WJ: Motion to remain. CHAIR: All those in favor, vote aye. 33