2005-11-09 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular mc

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relevant. If the Court feels it's not relevant, that's fine. Okay, but I'm not here to always come to a debate with either the Board or with Mr. Ganigan, because I really want to get down to the facts of the case, and that's why I brought Hiram here, to talk about the facts. That's why I filed a declaration from Harry Jose, to give you the facts of the case. Now I want to see what kind of facts Mr. Ganigan has to make his claims. That's what I'm here for. I'm only asking questions that I think is relevant. Whatever the Board feels has , that's fine. PKO: I think Mr. Kawahara interrupted, because if you were going to talk about his medical condition, he might want to reconsider whether it's open or closed. KK: Yes. CHAIR: Right. PKO: That's the only. WJ: But I don't think that's relevant, not a decision. PKO: You know frankly, I still don't understand what the claim is, the ethical side. KAMELAMELA: Yeah, I mean- WJ: - -I think I see it in 2 -83, section (b), no officer or employee shall use or attempt to use the officer's or employee's official position to secure or grant unwarranted privileges, exemptions, advantages, contracts, or treatment. And I think that's what I'm looking at PKO: - -So who are you WJ: - -I think he's been explaining that, that this gentleman on his own time was training people for positions that were within his employment, that could gain employment, and that he's employed as a County worker to train these people during County time, and he's been using his own free time and charging people on his own free time to train people for what they should be learning for free through the County, then there is a violation. I mean, I see it. CHAIR: Yeah, we're just not that far yet. We kind of want to get to that. WJ: That's all I'm interested in at this point. CHAIR: I see a lot of financial absenteeism ( ?), I see , perhaps, some valid, some not valid, and so on. These are things that are way beyond the purview of this Board, clearly, you know. But I kind of want—we want to zero in on this ethical thing, and soI don't know, Mr. Kamelamela, do you want to pursue this line further? I mean, I think- 41