2005-11-09 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular mc

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KAMELAMELA: - -I got to that point, and I have more questions, because to me, he made his complaint. I'm trying to find out precisely what is it he's complaining about, not what we might think he's complaining about. But the more information I think we have, the better decision we can make that is fair to everybody. WJ: I don't think knowing about his past work history is going to help me make a determination- KAMELAMELA: - -on what- WJ: - -so if you want to ask him specific questions as to his ethical violation, I think that's very appropriate. KAMELAMELA: Yeah, but so far I haven't heard really anything, and that's what I'm trying to find out. So, Mr. Joseph, if you want to stop me from questioning, that's fine. But I have a duty to my client to ask what I feel is relevant. WJ: I'd like to stay with your relevancy. And I read to you the portion that he claims. And it's a serious allegation. KAMELAMELA: Yeah, and I'm not treating this any more less seriously, Mr. Joseph. WJ: No, but could you better ask the questions specifically to that allegation? KAMELAMELA: And that's where I'm going. PKO: You know, maybe we didn't allow you a chance to make an opening statement, to give us an overview of what your case is. Would that be helpful in understanding the line of questioning? We gave you a chance to try and explain GANIGAN: -- but he kept butting in. CHAIR: I want to get him to do that, too, and then that's what we would dig into a little but, you know, a little cross - examination as it were, right? I kind of what to hear what you guys have to say to these charges KAMELAMELA: What I did to try state the case is, I filed a pre- hearing statement which outlines not only what the relevant Code of Ethics provision is, and I think I filed it with the Board in November—November 4t it went out. So that's what I did to give what the law is and give what the facts of the case is. Because I wasn't too sure what Mr. Ganigan was going to bring up, you know, I'm trying to . But it is within the power of the Board that if they want me to proceed to another area, I can. It's not a problem with me, because now I'm going into another area, another area of questioning. But this is how I see the case. So by looking at my pre- hearing statement, and listening to what Ganigan had stated, what I wanted to tell the Board is this, that the County shouldn't penalize its employees for one, for people wanting to W