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GILMAN: Before June of 2005, I don't remember. <br />WJ: When did you get audited? <br />GILMAN: I feel that I got audited back in May, could be like in 2003 or 4? <br />WJ: So you just misunderstood his question? <br />GILMAN: Yeah. <br />WJ: So, May 2003 or 4? <br />GILMAN: Or 4I can't remember when, but it was awhile back. <br />KAMELAMELA: Okay, and so when you got audited back in May 2003, and that was for a <br />promotion that required a CDL? <br />GILMAN: That was promotion. <br />KAMELAMELA: That would require a CDL? <br />GILMAN: Required a CDL at the time, yes. <br />KAMELAMELA: And the person who audited you at that time was Hiram? <br />GILMAN: Uh huh. <br />KAMELAMELA: And did you pass or fail the audit? <br />GILMAN: I failed. <br />KAMELAMELA: And why did you fail? <br />GILMAN: On that part, my understanding was I couldn't do a downshift when operating the <br />truck —the downshift. That's my understanding. <br />KAMELAMELA: He told you that? <br />GILMAN: I heard it from my supervisor. <br />KAMELAMELA: And who was your supervisor at that time? <br />GILMAN: Casuga, Ben Casuga. <br />AL: So was there training, then, offered to you after that failed audit? <br />GILMAN: No. No. <br />21 <br />