2006-02-08 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular

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prove their abilities without any regard to who had trained them. Mr. Keliikoa answered that he definitely did. He said that for Mr. Cambra, he had even tried to help him by lending him his CDL manual. He said he went out of his way to try and help people. Mr. Cambra said that he was treated unfairly in the way he was given the test. He said people get tested in different ways, that not everybody gets tested on the air brakes first. Mr. Keliikoa said he goes straight to the air brakes when he tests and that the form he made goes step by step. Mr. Kamelamela said he didn't have a copy, that he could make it part of the exhibits. Mr. Keliikoa reiterated that when he audits, he makes sure people do it correctly. He devised a form because people forget how to do the air brakes correctly. Mr. Joseph stated that the only issue which concerned him was the training and testing of County employees. He said that the fact Mr. Keliikoa owned a business and was training people in that business who worked for the County was a possible violation. He stated that he thinks Mr. Keliikoa is an honest man and that he failed Mr. Cambra and Mr. Gilman for good reason. He doesn't believe that is the issue. Mr. Kawahara stated that they were getting into the semantics of fair and unfair and that they were not here to determine whether it is legal or illegal, but rather ethical or unethical. He stated he was concerned that the issue has been resolved by the union and in the negotiations it was determined that Mr. Keliikoa would no longer audit personnel. Ms. Lum stated that Mr. Cambra had asked for an opinion about whether there was a possible violation prior to June, when the auditing was still going on, and that Mr. Cambra really wanted to know, for his own heart and mind, whether there was a violation. Mr. Cambra said that it had also been stated that the agreement was not signed off on yet, so it was not a done deal. He said he wanted this on the record, documented, so that something like this doesn't happen again. Mr. Kamelamela said that the way the complaint was written, there is more than one issue. He said it's not just about an appearance of impropriety but whether there's an actual conflict. He said he wants to present everything so that the Board has everything, because it's not just one issue. (TAPE #3A): KK: Can I ask one question? I asked you before, and I know you gave me an answer. Either I don't remember -- KAMELAMELA: -- transaction, and that's where we have to argue, well, even if you assume that there's an appearance of impropriety, does that meet the standards as set out , where one section, section 2- 83(b)(4), it says there has to 36