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it amongst yourselves. So just to clarify that, if you think executive session is <br />necessary. <br />WJ: Once again, I just thought I'd iterate, that I only see one possible, one possible <br />avenue of conflict here, and that one possible avenue is that he owns a business <br />that he trains people on weekends, and those —some of those people are County <br />employees that then go back to the baseyard and he does the performance and <br />other tests on them, and they get their promotion. That's I think the only possible <br />conflict, and I wanted to narrow our scope of this meeting just towards that. I'm <br />not questioning your honesty and integrity in doing their audits and performance <br />tests. I think you're doing a good job. But that's not the issue. The issue is your <br />business and training County employees, and if we can just direct our focus onto <br />that. <br />PKO: So your opinion —but then we don't know what the other testimony -- <br />WJ: -- Right, that's my opinion. <br />PKO: If he feels he needs to present evidence because the other Board members might <br />be thinking otherwise, then— <br />AL: - -My question is, onI think it might be to you—on section 2- 83(b)(4), that's the <br />one they soliciting, selling, otherwise engaging in financial transactions with <br />subordinates or a person or business whom that employee inspects or supervises. <br />So that relates to the business, because he is or possibly could be training <br />somebody and receiving paymentI don't know whether we would call you <br />supervising, but you were auditing. So that appliesI'm looking at that section. <br />PKO: Is he soliciting, selling, or otherwise engaging in substantial financial <br />transactions. <br />AL: With? <br />KAMELAMELA: See, that's how I'm reading this. <br />AL: You're reading it as what? <br />KAMELAMELA: As with him. Is he soliciting? No. Is he selling? No. Is he engaging in any <br />substantial financial transaction with him? That's how I'm reading it. <br />AL: And I'm looking at it in a broader sense, with anybody. <br />KAMELAMELA: He's talking about somebody else, who has initiative to go out and actually <br />get training. This person doesn't know whether he's going to get a County job, <br />and there is a checks and balances here, because he doesn't supervise them. He's <br />not the one who <br />AL: - -his job is not a supervisory position? <br />U <br />