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KAMELAMELA: No, it's not. He doesn't supervise. Both of them have testified that he <br />doesn't supervise. <br />AL: But it does come under the employee inspects. <br />KAMELAMELA: the employee is engaged in financial transactions. They've never <br />taken his class before. They —it's the relationship that they have. It's like a <br />student and a teacher. <br />PKO: I can only tell you that the only time I saw this question come up before the <br />Board, it was a department head who was planning to enter into a business with a <br />subordinate of his, and he asked if that was appropriate or not. And he put the <br />section that was under question. <br />CAMBRA: Under this section here, it doesn't say, you know, one person. It doesn't say me. <br />It doesn't say you. It pertains to the whole matter. You know what I mean. If it's <br />in general, , not just the one person. <br />GILMAN: There is County employees that might say that, to get their license. They went <br />and take the test for the permits, but he trained them for their license. And they <br />were employees Then when they —the opportunity came out for a <br />promotion, they applied. <br />KK: You wanted to say something? <br />KELIIKOA: I was just going to say that I test them on the truck for an EO 2 position, I test <br />them on the truck, and I also test them on other equipment, which is the backhoe <br />. I never trained anybody on that on the outside, that works for the <br />County, you know. So I cannot and you have to pass <br />both to get considered for a promotion. <br />PKO: I think someone's asking, are we planning to take a break or are we going to go <br />through lunch? <br />GANIGAN: Can I ask a question? Last time we didn't go lunch, we stayed all the way til <br />three o'clock <br />KK: That was last time. That's another matter. But Mr. Kamelamela, I'd like to ask <br />one question that might have pertinence. Are you permitted, or can you tell us <br />whether that settlement within the union is settled or not, or is it —you know <br />you said he no longer does auditing. I think it has some bearing on what my <br />thinking might go, if it has been settled within the union. <br />KAMELAMELA: Okay, I actually, it shouldn't have even been mentioned. It should not have <br />been mentioned here, because it's something that's in the process. <br />39 <br />