2006-02-08 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular

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AL: Indirect interest. ONIZUKA: Yes. ASHIDA: That is a very good question, because that's really at the heart of any issue that would be relevant. I think I've stated our position in my letter dated January 4, that I think the proper analysis is looking at the degree of . Because I think if you take anything to its logical extreme, you could say that I'm related to you, Ms. Lum, somehow, down the road, you know AL: - -six degrees of separation? ASHIDA: I think what you should look at are factual considerations. I'm glad Mr. Onizuka, you know, came here today from Kona to answer your questions, because I think the factual questions like Mr. Inouye had very, very important and relevant. What exactly do you do there, you know? Do you have any say in the day -to -day operations with respect to that liquor license? You know, so, I think that it's a matter of degree. It's a matter of what you collectively as a group feel more confident in. Again, that's our position. You have your attorney here who you know, can - -if you have any specific questions about that, you can address it with her. Ms. Pakele looks like she just needs to say something, so. PAKELE: I do. 1250 Oceanside, is who is the employer of Claude Onizuka, is the lessor to our licensee, which is the Club at Hokulia, which is a non - profit entity. Direct interests would be whether or not Mr. Onizuka influences the day -to -day operations. The indirect, as I see it, would be whether or not 1250 can influence the Club at Hokulia in its operations, in its operations involving liquor. As I see it, Mr. Onizuka is not an officer or director of 1250 Oceanside Partners and by his statement does not have anything to do with the actual liquor service involved in the premises. Does that— AL: - -that helps. ASHIDA: I'm going to hire Ms. Pakele as our next lawyer in our office. KK: Any other questions? Mr. Joseph? WJ: I think my only question would be, if an issue should arise from the Clubhouse to the Liquor Commission, what would then be your position? ONIZUKA: Well I think if it involved anything to do with the Club at Hokulia, then I would excuse myself from that case. WJ: Thank you. AL: Or anything else to do with that whole development, right? 12