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frankly to Mr. Onizuka's credit, he's present here today—he raised concerns or a <br />question regarding, through Ms. Pakele, because of the fact that after Mr. Onizuka <br />had retired from American Savings Bank in Kona, his second career, so to speak, <br />is he now works with the Oceanside 1250 Partners, is that correct Mr. Onizuka? <br />And I didn't know Mr. Onizuka before this. We've never met before, you know, <br />just this board and commission activity, I had the pleasure of <br />meeting him. In corresponding with him, through Mr. Kelly, I learned that he is <br />not directly affiliated with the Clubhouse of Hokulia, who apparently has a liquor <br />license granted through the Department of Liquor Control, but it's not yet active. <br />Basically you have Mr. Onizuka, who is sort of employed by the parent company, <br />so to speak. He doesn't have any input or activity with the daily operations of the <br />Clubhouse at Hokulia. At that point, when we discussed it informally, we <br />concluded that there wasn't going to be a problem, and it just wasn't an issue. <br />But like I said, to Mr. Onizuka's credit, and because, you know, in an abundance <br />of caution, we wanted to be sure. That's why we're here before you today, just to <br />verify and to ensure that there isn't any violation of the Hawaii County Code of <br />Ethics. Like I said, it's in —our interpretation, and I represent the Liquor <br />Department—we don't believe there is. That's why we're here today, just in an <br />abundance of caution, to verify that. We want to make sure there's no <br />controversy surrounding this, any type of —you know, anything said or alluded to, <br />that there's any impropriety or any appearance of impropriety, and that's why we <br />appear before you today. I'm more than happy to answer any questions, and will <br />submit both Ms. Pakele and Mr. Onizuka to ask, if you have any questions. <br />KK: Thank you, Mr. Ashida. Do the members of the Board have any questions? <br />KI: Yeah, I have a question. Mr. Onizuka, it states here that you are an employee of <br />Oceanside 1250. <br />ONIZUKA: Yes. <br />KI: May I ask what do you do as an employee? <br />ONIZUKA: My position is Director of Community and Public Affairs. Basically what I'm <br />doing is getting community groups, offering them tours of the property, to <br />acquaint the public with the property, so that they're —what they hear and read in <br />the media is not, you know, totally true. I think a lot of people have not seen the <br />project, and that's what we want to expose them to. <br />KK: Any further questions? <br />AL: I have a question on the—in Section 281- 11(b), where it says "no person shall be <br />a member of any commission or board who is or becomes engaged or is directly <br />or indirectly interested in any business for the manufacture or sale." So is it an <br />indirect interest? What is it? <br />ONIZUKA: (inaudible) <br />3 <br />